El Gordo de la Primitiva Lottery International Promotions Programmes

Well, what can i say? For a couple of minutes, my problems were all solved! I was a bit apprehensive when i saw that they were asking for a copy of my passport/driver’s licence. I called the number given in the letter – 0034 656 301 830 and spoke to Dr Pedro Garcia, as per detailed in the letter.

Dr Garcia(?) was extremely anxious that I send my identification and when I told him the I did not think it prudent, his reply was….. ‘Well, you don’t what the money then’ – and he promptly hung up.

LOL I think this, also, is part of the scam…….

Pity though……

Hi eberyone, yesterday I recieved this letter from Elgordo but the difference with mine was they also sent me a cheque for $1350.00 CDN funds. The cheque seems to look real to me. So I called the # on the letter and gave them the reference # and they actually told me to go ahead and cash the cheque and then call them back. After I cash the cheque they told me they will require an insurance, shipping fee of $950.00. That will still leave me up $400.00. Could this be for real? Should I cash the cheque? Has anyone else recieved this letter with an actual real cheque? I look forward to hearing from everyone.

Thanks

Well guys Dr Mario Sanchez has resurfaced. Received letter 10/9/07. Letter worded as many above. Letter was posted from Malaga, Spain. I had won 615,810 euro’s. As you did, my first thought was scam. Checked the internet and found this site which confirmed my suspicions. Please note a slight difference in their latest letter. It states that I, along with 25 000 others, were picked at random by a computer to receive a promotional entry to La Primtiva Lottery. Which, of couse I won a share of first prize. Get real. Many thanks for info on site. Letter will be in bin shortly.

Cheers

Well I never, Dr Sanchez must be a bit busy signing letters as he seems to have got his assistant, Antonio Gomez to write to me to tellm me I’ve won 615,810 euro’s.
They should use some of the money to buy a new prnter as the inkjet machine they are using doesn’t print the bar code or company name very well at all on the cheap paper they use.
How can anyone take this seriously?
They ask for so much personal information including more next of kin details than trainee astronauts have to provide.
Sorry for the rant, apart from winning 615,800 euro’s I must have had a bad day!

wow im rich???????????????????????or am i
only because i have the net i would have sent back the form to
claim my 615,810.00 euros
thanks for this site.
please catch these ………. u know the words
do the lottery instead bye

Just wondering if anyone has recieved the letter as well as a cheque? In all these postings I seem to be the only lucky person who recieved an actual cheque with the letter for amount of $1350.00. I have been too scared to cash it still. I look forward to hearing from everyone.

received one of these letters this morning saying that a Bilbao Seguros had brought this ticket in my name? why woould some one want to use my name ”tell him to use his own” massive scam watch out!

I just revieved one of these letters from a Dr RINA SANCHEZ (very academic family, their parents must be so proud).

This one was from a company called PACIFIC SEGUROS SA ESPANA. It did look legit although it claimed to have an address in Madrid but had a malaga postmark on it. Maybe he posted it when he was on holiday.

I too would like to know where they got my address. Should I hand this to the police or something or is there not much point?

@ Tony:

You could try the police, or rather you should. But don’t have too much hope that they will be able to anything about it. Policing is still a lokal activity, while scamming is global…

My dad received a letter after sending in a scratchcard win to the Eurosweepstake Lottery S.A. He contacted me as was very anxious about his win. I have seen the letter it has an address on from PLAZA JUAN CARLOS C-14 IN MADRID SPACE TE: 0034 6195 10 040. It basically says the same as all your comments above stating that he has won a lump sum payout of euros 715,555.00 credited his file number. The fund is deposited with a security company and insured in his name. It also goes on to say ”Due to mix up of some numbers and names we ask that you keep this award from public notice until your cliam has been proceessed. …. Ballot system drawn from 25,000 names . He had to contact a MARIO ORTIZ the foreign operaions manager of Daily Care Security Company S.A. on 0034 653 534 242. He needs to fax back his name, address and bank account details and say if he wants to be paid by (a) bank transfer or (b) pick up and also ask for Next of Kin information.

Who is going to tell my dad the bad news!!!

Exactly the same letter from GRUPO BILBAO SECURITY COMPANY is now doing the rounds in germany……..we`ve all won the lottery!!! keep up the good work!!

Hello.
I live in Estonia, Europe and my granny got a real letter in paper from la primitva lottery promotions program , not as email. This letter is similar to the first one in this page, but vice president is Pedro Cliff Antonio. Is it possible that THIS one is real?
Win was about 460 000 Euros.

I´M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GET SOME ANSWERS.
Thank You

Thanks for putting this out on the net. We’ve recieved the same letter as Tony from Dr Rina Sanchez. Obviously a scam! Anywhere we can send it to so we can bring the scum down?

Recived lottery winning notification today from Global Hogar Security S.A.
Thought my lucky day,my first scam letter.
How would they get my name and aderess

I have got about a same letter. First I didn’t believe it at all, I nearly put it on trash.. Today I did use time spelling the letter with dictionary, becouse I wanted to be sure I really understand the message. Am I really a winner? And today I finally started to believe that now the money-problems of me and my family are finally gone away for a while… Well, the paper is cheap and stamps are fuzzy….

But miy faher has few years ago take a part of some international lottery program. He has sent them some mony even, so that they would handle a lottery-prosess on behalf of him. I warned my father, but now…. Now it seemed to be succeed in that. Could this still be real? Are you sure this is feak? Or was it a cheat?

If this kind of lottery-program is REALLY going on in Europe, it’s not a surprise that swindlers are in a way also. But how could youi be suri, is this one feak or not?

Recieved a very similar letter today thought it was too good to be true, and would be worth checking out on the web to see if it is a scam and I think the answer would be YES!!!!!!. Got a different agent called Raul Torres, just something else to look out for. What a shame the money would have been lovely!!!!

Hi

I don`t know what to say. I`m happy to read this homepage and to have a careful mom.
Our story is: My parents traveled from Germany to portugal with car in 15. August and my mom had to stay for a few hours in Hospital in Spain. Last week they got a letter written in German. ”Translated Copy” was written on it. My mom read it and didn`t react because she is a very careful person. My mom asked where they got her adress from. Ì don`t live there since June 2006.
My Parents don`t use e-mail very often and don`t get spam-mails. When i saw the letter without reading i could see that it is a fake.
The stamp was a bad printed copy and put on it. The quallaty of the print was not very professional. a lot of mistakes. It was imitating a hologram saying ”Loterias y Apuestas del Estado”.

#The win was 615.810 EUROS. They wwrite that there are 17 winners and with totaly 10.468.770 Euros. If they don`t react to the letters to get the money, the Win will be send back to Ministerio de Economia y Hacienda.
The Category was Number 3 and my mom`s Winning numbers are 13-15-16-21-34-36. The also write a Cardnumber with Seriennumber that win. But she doesnt have any card and din`t play anything.
Adresse was Madrid Telefone 0034-636-662-492. Elgordo Lotería Primitiva With EAN Bar-Code and Send from Jose L. Miguel but signed by someone else. seems like G.Antonio.
The Agent is Don Pedro Delgado from
Global Hogar Security S.A.Comp.
Guzman el Bueno 137, 28001 Madrid.

A second page was to send to Global Hogar in which mymom may wirte her adress and the way how to get money. She can choice between bank transfer, Cheque or get money directly. Unfortunatly I don`t know anyone how lives in Madrid to get the money direcrly. I have to send fax back till 3. Oktober 2007.

It is interesting that they change little details in the letters but they all seem to be from the same person how belongs into jail for this fake.

I will sent this pages to German TV and wait for any reaction. No one offers money for free.

Lili

I called at my mothers house sat. am. with her weekend newspaper after visiting the local gym. She was still in her dressing gown at 9.15 and she hadn’t touched her bowl of cereal. ”Mike” she said, ”you better look at this, I,ve read it twice and I’m 95% sure its official”.
First thoughts ”SCAM”
She thought she had won €925,000.00 The letter went like this:-
ATTENTION: The Award Winner,
This is to inform you on the release of the EL- GORDO DE LA PRIMITIVA PROGRRAM held on the 27th July 2007. Due to a mix up of some numbers and names,the results were released on the 25th September 2007. Your name attached to ticket number 031-1127-841 with serial number 3214-07 drew the lucky numbers of 21-22-37-39-41-49 which consequently won the lottery in the 3rd category. You have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of €925,000.00 (NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND EUROS ONLY). This is just the start of the letter which was accompanied by a Payment Processing Form asking about payment options.
Please complete immediatly along with photo ID
1. BANK TRANSFER (asking for bank details) 2. CERTIFIED CHEQUE 3. PERSONAL CASH PICK. Also asking for name, address & tel. no. of next of kin.
there was a claims agent MR HUGO SANCHEZ Foreign operations manager SANTALUCIA SEGUROS, S.A. On Tel. 0034-695252137.
If anyone reading this with a time difference of over +5 or -5 hrs can they telephone him in the middle of the night spanish time and interupt his sleep I’d be very appreciative. To minimise the cost of your call go to web site TeleDiscount and find the pre fix number to dial before the one above for Hugo Sanchez.
My mother has played the El Gordo lottery a few times and with owning a couple of weeks timeshare in Spain this is probably how they obtained her address.
We were keeping this info from the rest of the family until the cheque was in the bank. Still under caution about the whole thing we discussed in detail of how the money would be distributed amongst the family and being mortgage free etc. this really put a spring in our step until finding this web site in work on Monday morning. Gobshites!

I just got my lottery winning notification letter through my door. It’s got a picture of a fella with with a beard handing a cheque to some other fella with a beard, and his short, stocky wife. They look thrilled. So am I. Apparently I’ve won 785,510.00 Euros in the Loterias Y Apuestas Del Estado which I don’t seem to remember entering. The text is pretty much word for word as the examples given by other people on this website. As it happens, I was in Spain on Aug 24th when my winning ticket was ‘selected’. But I don’t remember giving my address to anyone. Apart from to the hotel. Where are they getting people’s details? Maybe my claims agent Mr Ephraim Finely can tell me, once I’ve faxed off all my bank and credit card details plus a cheque for 10% of my winnings. The whole thing disturbs me. This is the first time I’ve experienced one of these kind of scams.

Has anyone recieved an actual cheque with the Scam letter? Why am I the only person who actually got a cheque from a bank in Calgary for the amount of $1250.00 Candian funds. I am scared to cash it because then they will have my banking info. I called the # on the letter and he told me to cash it and then call him back and then they will require an insurance fee of $950.00. What should I do??Any ideas??? Thanks

My mother who is deaf received a letter this morning and send a text message to me. my partner thought it could be a scam so advised her to fax a copy to us. Thank god for my lovely partner she tapped into this website. How she must be feeling when i text back saying its all a scam. She did buy a lottery in Benidorm spain and they are the numbers she picked 05 08 13 28 46 49.
the winnings was for 615,810.00 contact name was Dr Don Kimon tel 00 34 676 721 239. how could these people do this, its so cruel. hope they find them and send them to jail!!

thanks to the website

Hi to all concern

Reading through these letters wakes me up to realise that I have just lost $3000 in payment to get the money that I have won according to there terms and condition. It was exactly the same letters that are going around. I was so embarassed I wanted to bury myself alive as I went and told all my friends that I will recieved $600,000 how dump of me. Now my Mum is comforting me at home and telling me not to go see my friends anymore, cos they expect me to share the winning. Lets bring them to justice.

Got the same letter here in South Africa. I normally keep a very low profile on Internet and the only two instances during the last year where I supplied my information, has been in the last two weeks leading up to receipt of the letter. I am interested in importing from China and registered with Alibaba.com and Asian Winner. Supplied my info exactly as it was copied on the envelope from ”Spain”. Certain the link can be found with one of these two companies. Think I will ever do business with any one of them?

@TuilokomanaMelehifo

You have all my sympathies. But don’t be embarassed, be angry. And take the whole thing to the local authoroties. The more people who react, and file their complaints with the police, the bigger the chance that something can be done about scammers like this.

@Henk:
Great warning signs. But there is also quite a big chance that the scammers just registered to see other contacts, and picked your data from the site.

i recieved the same letter and send my details to them urgently.
now after chkin ur website i came to know that its all fraud.
thanks for opening my eyes .
pleez do tell my if any harm they can make.

I am so glad that i read all the notes by other people.
I am very short of cash and was a little over whelmed to see the letter.
I will not be sending all my details as i do not konw what will be done with them.
I think these scams are so wrong because for people like me that are in debt are looking for a way out and this just makes me feel really bad.

what is that,i dont know what is the realting or no???????

Thank you very very much for this site.
really usefull

my advice to everybody never answer the bandits
spanish police wake up we´re tired of you´re getting payed for doing nothing
STOP THE MAFIA NOW
THEY DAMAGE THE IMAGE
OF SPAIN AROUND THE GLOBE

Bonjour a tous et a toutes ,

Me voila a mon tour ”victime ” de cette supercherie ….. hélas je ne trouve pas d’autres mots .
J’ai recu la lettre hier matin , j’ai soit disant gagné a la loterie espagnole ”EUROSMILLION PRIMITTIVA INTERNATIONAL LOTTERY PROMOTION”, la somme de 615,810.00 euros !!
J’avais dans cette lettre une personne a contacter qui était Mr ALFREDO MARTINEZ au N° 0034652047982 , et le Fax 0034911011273.
Je l’ai donc appelé pour plus de renseignements , car il faut savoir que j’ai gagner a un tirage au sort datant de l’an 2000 !! , mais malheuresement ils n’ont pas pu me joindre avant malgré (selon eux) des recherches très poussées .
Je demande donc des explications et la Mr MARTINEZ me répond en espagnol que son secrétariat est fermé , me demande mon N° de tel que je donne et me dit qu’on me rappelerait .
Effectivement quelques mn après une personne du nom de Mme Bienve MARTINEZ me rappelle , et elle parlait un francais des plus remarquable ….
Elle me confirme que j’ai gagner a cette loterie et que cela devait venir a cette époque d’un coupon de jeux sur un produit auquel j’ai du participé (ce qui était fort possible car il m’arrive de participer a des jeux ) .
Elle me demande de lui envoyer un fax avec mon nom , adresse, numéro de tel , et bien sur mes références gagnantes de la loterie ainsi que le mode de paiment que je souhaite (soit chèque soit virement ) .
Je lui fax donc tout cela (a savoir que jusque la j’y ai presque cru ) , je la rappelle comme convenu a sa demande une fois cette opération effectuée , et la elle dit soit je vous rappelle ce soir ou au plus tard demain (donc aujourd’hui) avant 10h , si je ne l’ai pas fais …. appelez moi .
J’ai commencé a avoir des doutes et ma curiosité a été plus forte que le reste j’ai commencé a chercher sur internet et je suis tombée sur ce site …..
Adieux les reves !! bonjour le triste retour a la réalité !!
Je ne l’ai pas rappelé comme convenu , j’ai attendu pour voir , et la a ma grande surprise elle m’a appelé toute a l’heure , en me disant ”voila je viens de chez le notaire , votre somme y a été déposé mais il a quelques inconvénients ”.
Je lui demande lesquels et la elle commence a me parler du Ministère des Finances d’Espagne , de la Banque qui aurait selon elle besoin de certificat d’authentification .
Bien sur je ne comprend pas , elle m’explique qu’en fait pour pouvoir m’envoyer mon chèque de 615,810.00 euros , je dois lui verser une certaine somme afin qu’au niveau du Ministère des Finances et de la Banque je n’ai pas de soucis (soit disant interne) pour pouvoir toucher mon chèque .
Je lui demande donc le montant que je dois verser et la elle me dit 990 euros !!!!
Je lui dit que je n’ai pas une telle somme , elle me dit de me débrouiller pour l’avoir d’ici une semaine sinon mes gains seront perdus pour moi …., que 990 euros ce n’est rien a rapport a la somme que je vais toucher .
Voila j’en suis la a l’heure ou je vous écris , je pense que je vais rentrer dans son jeux voir jusqu’ou elle va aller , bien sur elle ne verra pas un centime de part mais j’avoue que je suis assez en colère contre ce genre de personne qui pourrait profiter de personnes crédules, agés, malades etc ..
Je vous tiendrais au courant de la suite de mes aventures .

I just got home to find a letter from Spain..I know no one there and once i had opened the letter, whala! it said i won a million euros from El Gordo international lottery program…I called the number given to find out more about it and the contact person given was not in (according to the person i spoke to he said that he was in belgium and did not know when he would be back) as i spoke to someone else…..am bilingual and spanish is my second tongue. the person on the other end switched to english because he claimed he did not understand what i was talking about…..however i continued in spanish and he replied back in english (he sounded like he was from african origin). He claims it was official so i got in touch with the ministro de economia y hacienda in Madrid to be told that it was a scam. After i checked around and saw this site i was reliefed to find that this was a scam and that i was not the only one who got this letter or email..pity…..that money would have done nicely for my wedding and honeymoon next year!!! oh well….luckly i had the sense to look further….So anyone else who may have gotten this letter watch out!

Hi there,

i also received such a letter from spain. And for the first time i opened a letter like this because of the real stamp attached to the envelope. I won 815.510 Euro, and i only had to send back the formular or call Mr. Alex Gomez.
Unfortunaly i didn’t play lotto in the last year. And the translation into German was really bad, hardly to understand… And no Signature, only a printed one. Because of this i luckily couldn’t take it serious and googled it. The name of Mr Gomez took me to your Site, Nikke! Thank you very much for your work and all you other guys for your replies, i wouldn’t have found this site without your detailed description of your letters including the names.
Look on the bright side of life: In my case it costed them the price of one stamp! And the have to send a lot of letters and need a lot of stamps…
Best regards and keep on being good people!
Michael

…once again: Thank you, Nikke!

hello im 20 yrs old from australia i also received this letter i read it and cheaked the internet 1st and luckely i didnt have a heart attack with excitement with is very possible because i have a rare heart desease wich if i am overly excitted or stressed i could drop dead and being 34 weeks pregnant in and out of hospital these last few dayz was likely if i had taken this letter seriouslyly but nothing is free and it seamed like there would be a catch and if i had waisted the spanish phone call from australia at a time where i am finantially struggerling enough as it is. but its nice to know there are ppl out their who will put the net to good use to help reasure ppl like us who receive this that it is just a scam. thanks heaps i did not need the stress of this atm and apriciate ur time to spread the word about these scammers coz naturally ne one would want to be reasured that it was for real or not. truth is today i spent a lil part of the day wondering what if …. and u know what, i would have liked some money but i wouldnt want to receive so much i think if i ever did win that much id only want so much the rest id want to give away donate and put away still giving me that chase in life to get things on my own and not all of it for free u appriciate what u earn still wouldnt it be nice for a lil lol

ive received a letter like that today as well it was from spain but i dont know what to do …. wat do u think abou that should i fill in the form or may be a fraud????

My wife got a similar letter today, although they have changed the name of the security company to GLOBAL HOGAR SECURITY S.A. and the chaps name is now DON LUIS BENITO. Otherwise the scam is the same. Thanks for your bringing it to everybody’s attention. I think it’s disgraceful the way that these scum bags target people who are usually the least likely to be able to afford to lose this money.

My wife rcvd the same letter with prize amount of €915810.00…. Walaaa…. a sudden milionaire…. yeah… for real…. if they really want to give us the money, just post the cheque to the same address that they send the letter & we would happilly give the 10% or even 20% fm the prize amount once the cheque is cleared!!!! hua hua hua… tough luck!!! anyway, thanks for setting up this web site…

Bonjour tout le monde,

vous savez pourquoi je suis sur ce site. j’ai reçu effectivement un courrier el-gordo de la loteria nationale disant qu’il y a eu un tirage au sort le 19/08/2007 et que lauréate de la somme de 615 810€. donc il me demande de renvoyer la fiche de traitement de versement lotterie dûment remplie et de la faire parvenir par fax au numéro suivant : 0034 911 414 258. imaginez-vous que lorsque vous recevez un tel courrier, vous vous dites que vous pourrez réaliser vos rêves. Donc, je fais le nécessaire et demande de m’envoyer mon prix comme option ”par chèque”.
nous sommes le 22/10/2007, vers 10h30 , mon téléphone sonne et la surprise du chef, j’ai en ligne Mr PEPE RUIZ qui me demande d’aller à la poste et d’envoyer 1050€ par mandat à TINA DUFED, avenuda Portugal n° 16 N – 28043 MADRID ESPAGNE. Quand j’aurai fait tout cela de le rappeler au n° 0037 687 075 210 et faire parvenir la photocopie de ma pièce d’identité et la photocopie du mandat envoyé au 0034 911 311 875.
Vous rendez compte que ces gens là n’ont aucune scrupule de s’acharner sur des malheureux qui se serrent la ceinture pour atteindre la fin du mois. C’est dommage que certaines personnes vivent sous la coupe des pauvres qui vont gagner leur pain quotidien tous les jours à la sueur de leur front.
c’est dommage que la vie soit aussi pourri par de tel malfaiteur.
merci pour votre site. j’espère que el-gordo de la loteria nationale portera plainte à ce niveau là. Ils ne peuvent pas laisser des voleurs comme cela salir leur nom et société
anie flore

Hello everyone, I got the same letter today 22th of october 2007. The letter is defenetly a scam. I got the letter by mail not through the Internet. At first I was happy, since I do speak spanish and do play and use spanish sites sometimes I thought I had really won. I decided to Investigate and found this site. I am glad I did because there is somany that have the same letter.

My Advice ist throw the letter in the Trash.

My neighbours (elderly and limited english) received this letter – they won 315,810 euros. They do not have access to internet, fax or any other ”modern” means of communication. How do these scammers get their name and address. Luckily they have good family and neighbours and did not return any information but I would like to know more on their behalf

I live in vietnamese … I want more information . .. I write and speak english is very bad … Please if you can write vietnamese ….
You sent me a letter winner PRIZE ( 2007 LUCKY WINNER)
My E-mail address won you 5 million euros … True ??? Or Lie ?
Sent me a letter as soon as possible

Wakenya msidanganywe!!!!
Hawa ni wahuni wa Ulaya. ( we could be millionaires by now if all this were true)

ciao tutti.anch’io ho ricevuto una lettera uguale.non sapevo cosa pensare…se era uno scherzo oppure la verità.ragazzi meno male che esiste internet.ma io mi domando…..perchè mandano queste lettere???? qual è il loro profitto????? un bacio a tutti

Received a letter today from The Desk of the Vice President, International Promotions, Murcia. The letter is almost identical to the ones mentioned above, but it refers to a win on Lototurf Internacional, a bona fide and long running Spanish horse racing lottery. The contact is–Don David Sanchez, senior advocate for a supposed law firm by the name of Allied Chambers Abogados Alicante. This is just another rip-off using a different lottery name and official sounding contacts. To quote; All participants’ tickets were purchased through the lagoon touristica by the customer relations of many global companies e.g. airline, insurance, and other consumer goods or services companies drawn from 25,000 names; unquote. This is their way of saying that we don’t have to personally buy a lottery ticket. I don’t know how they got our names and address, but our recent visit to Mexico may have something to do with it. They were also very kind to show a photocopy of our ‘winning’ ticket. This is a good site folks, so take heed of the advice Nikke and all the other contributers give. Keep up the good work.

Hi guys,
same letter, same scam.
My contact person was Dr. Pepe Torres, foreign operations manager of Seguros Bilbao (a real insurance company, of course)….funny name!!

Thanks for this site, Nkke.

Hi,
Thanks for this webpage mate! When I got the letter, I thought, well I can speak Spanish, why should I pay the 10% fee to the insurance company, and I can just ask for a cheque so it’s safer. Then it dawned on me, this is just a mail they photocopy. It IS sent from Spain, but the letter doesn’t have my name on it, only the enveloppe has my name and address, the rest of the document is on poor quality paper with a colour inkjet printer. Now why would they send a poor man’s printout? I’ve never seen such a poor-looking official document, but because I willed it to be true, I did have to check online. Deadline to claim my 674349 euros is 16 Nov 2007. Anyway, hy would the vice president of Alliance Security Company Ltd write to me, why not Mr Andaluz’s secretary?

Hi..I’m from Malaysia..Sorry if my English bad..Few days ago I also received the same letter from Madrid Spain..I really shocking when get the letter..Can you imagine when they told me that I won’t lump sum 785,510.00 in Euro..But in my situation I have to pay 10% of my winning to claim agent after the fund gets to me..It is true?..Please help me..

We received the same letter today from these pricks in the 3rd world country of Spain (that’s why they’re scamming). We dreamt for 5 mins then rang the phone number provided, spoke to a Don guy (lol all the names above are from a Don guy). I played with him for a while when I realised it was a scam, and all the time I was trying to speak, he’d butt in and say ‘just listen to me’. I said I’m not sending any money to him, and he said ‘fine, you don’t have to’. I then said to him that before I’d fax him any details, I’d check with my local police and authorities here in Australia, he didn’t seem phased, he hears it all the time. These scum bastards from other countries are quite funny to me, as I know they are trying to scam poor bastards like us for money they obviously need to live. They can’t do an honest days work to earn their money, the low life scum sucking pricks. They’ll get caught one day or something bad will happen to them, I believe in karma. It did cost me an international call, but who gives a f**k, I heard the goose’s voice and got him all excited thinking I believed him lol. To be honest, I have better things to do with my time. This is a great site, I only hope no one has been sucked in by these Dons or Marias. And why the f**k does every amount here end in 810 e.g. we ‘won’ Euro 315,810, someone else ‘won’ Euro 915,810. That’s discrimination, we missed out on Euro 600,000, which works out to be a gazillion aussie dollars lol. Only joking, thanx again for this site, and as mentioned a thousand times above, you never win anything for nothing. Regards to all.

I was also sent this same letter some days ago to the apartment in Berlin where I used to live. Its so sad that some people really believe in letters like the one mentioned here. I had seen documents about this kind of criminal acts in finnish television channels years ago, so I knew not to trust something this funny.

Thanks for making the sites, as we can see it has helped many people with internet connection to avoid from criminality.

I was in the middle of my wedding arrangements and as usual less budget more purchases, so I was so happy after receiving this letter yesterday that I won the amount of 20,937,540 Euro I was like out of this world but after reading this site and comments of hundreds of people my heart is like if it is going to stop God be praised I still pray that this is true yesterday I spend almost 500 hundred rupees calling Spain sending fax and again today I’ve to call at about 9:00 am. I’m confused what to do, please help!

Hi there especially Ellin Khali from Malaysia,

I’m from Malaysia too. I also received a letter from ElGordo Primitiva Loteria mid of this month mentioned that i won a lotery with amount of Euros 615,800. First of all i was thinking it is true. They want me to submit the payment processing form together with my bank details. I did that!! then i realised that i made a mistake. I took an action to check in the internet about this company. This is a scam programe. Please notice that the letter is printed in inkjet and blured scan. An agent name David Gill (and i don’t know what his others name and he speak very bad english)claim he’s from Midland Seguros SA will do all the processing of transfer the fund to my account. And another guy name Phil Borja claim as an officer from Guardian International Bank Madrid Spain called me and ask me to make a payment of USD1250 to my agent or the processing fee. Then i’m thinking what the hell is this all about. They require a 5% commission from my winning amount and then ask me to pay usd 1250. what the fuck is this. i know something not right.
Then i check with bank of espana ( spain central bank) and there is no such Guardian International Bank in Madris, spain. I also read a lot of report about this scam program. Police of Spain also did mentioned to beware of Phil Borja from Guardian International Bank. So be carefull with this scam programe. Phil Borja and David Gill is a big scammer. Beware of them. I’m sorry to say that all these scammer are come from poor country and there’re trying to steal our money. Go and get a good job guy. It’s good for you to wash the plate in restaurant rather than stealing people money. God will revenge anything you done wrong guy.

Hi, got the same letter today from the same lot, Euro 615,810 won on spanish lotto. Knew straight away it was a scam. Problem is, these bastards do get money from some poor unsuspecting people and thats why they keep on doing it. Fair dues to this website and other sites like it for trying to make the general public more aware of these scams, keep up the good work… Paul in Ireland

Thanks Nikke, for this website!

I’ve had two of these letters in the last couple of weeks. One was concerning the Loturf Internacional Easter Program and the other one was about the Spanish Lotto Nacional Lottery Program.

I do wonder where they got my address from, especially since they had got my UK address correct and then added Norway at the bottom (I used to live in Norway).

Obviously too good to be true, so I just put them away and decided to check the internet for information.

I do wonder where they got my address from, especially since they had got my UK address correct and then added Norway at the bottom (I used to live in Norway).

My wife just received one of these letters yesterday 7th Niovember 2007, and it looked TOO GOOD to be true. I also wondered where they got her correct name from? A mention of comming from travelling ticket foils gave a little credence to the letter as she had been travelling overseas to China earlier this year, so are these a source of gathering this information?
Decided to check up on the ‘So Called’ company and sure enough it is a scam. I do not know if the authorities here in New Zealand are interested, will check on this though. Thank goodness for the information that is available on the internet.

hi folks,i receive this letter today and i start dreaming,looks to good to be true.the letter was from loteria primitiva and i ”won”615810.00 euros.now i know is a scam,thanks to you,,,but how they can get our names and adresses ??how?
from where?anyone knows? thank you for this site
see ya

Hello folks!
I was scamed as you. received the letter today saying I received the exact sum of 315.810.00 euros (it seems others have won that same amount!!)hmmn..
I am a poor student, thought oh well it might be true,I was actually in spain this spring and so on…
so PLEASE do not be fooled. And as someone mentioned; look at the cheap quality of paper, and better yet the signature at the bottom is even copied as well!!! They messed it up BAD. So Dear Espinosa José Sanchez (who ever you are..!) remember that what you give you get and all things must come to and end. As this. Thankyou Nikki for creating this forum. Anne

Bonsoir,

Aadeel, de Paris. Quelle ne fut ma surprise en recevant cette lettre hier chez moi par la poste !!! Lauréat de 615 810 €, wow !!! Heureusement, je ne fais JAMAIS attention à ce genre de ‘conneries’ !!! Et ce forum me donne malheureusement raison ! Mais effectivement combien de personnes se sont faites gruger par ces escrocs !!! Ma lettre a été postée à Malaga, et provenait de Linda Rodriguez, Bureau du Vice-Pdt, Promotions Internationales. Mon ”agent” s’appelle Dr (docteur en escroquerie apparemment !!!) Martin Carlos, de la compagnie GRUPO BILBAO FINANCE/SECURITE ECONOMIC SA.

Merci en tout cas, Nikki, de nous permettre d’apporter nos témoignages sur ce genre d’escroqueries !!!

Bonne continuation à vous. Aadeel.

Slightly different version sent to me on 10Nov 2007.

2007 WINNING NOTICEDear RESULTS FOR NOVEMBER 2007 CATEGORY ”A” We are happy to inform you that you have emerged a winner under the NOVEMBER. LUCKY DRAWS second Category, which is part of our promotional draws.The draws were held prior to your notification.Participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from 4,000,000names/email addresses of individuals and companies from Africa, America, Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe, Middle East, and New Zealand as part of our International Promotions Program.You/Your Company, attached to ticket number IL353/04/46 with serial number IL35376EW drew the lucky numbers 12, 14, 19,21,23,5 (8), You have therefore been awarded a lump sum pay out Three Million Pounds (3,000,000.00 GBP) in cash, which is the winning payout for Category “A” winners.NOTE: For easy reference and identification find below your reference numbers.Note that you are to forward this email to the (Claims Agent) for your prize claim processing.Claims Agent ContactREFERENCE NUMBER: MA/02/453876752/NLMrs. Cherry RingsCONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS:ringscherrydesk05@jmail.co.zaN.B.ANY BREACH OF CONFIDENTIALITY ON THE PART OF THE WINNERS WILL RESULT TO DISQUALIFICATION. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MAIL BOX, YOU ARE TO CONTACT YOUR CLAIMS AGENT FOR FURTHER PRIZE CLAIM PROCEDURE.YOU ARE TO FILL OUT THIS FORM TO FILE FOR YOUR CLAIMS1. FULL NAMES: ________2.ADDRESS: _______ 3. SEX:_______________4. AGE: ________5. MARITAL STATUS: ___________________6. OCCUPATION: ________________________7. E-MAIL ADDRESS: _____________________________8. TEL AND FAX NUMBERS: _____________________9. REFERENCE NUMBERS: ____________________10. TICKET NUMBER: ___________________11. SERIAL NUMBER: __________________12. AMOUNT WON: ___________________________________13. STATE: __________________________________14. COUNTRY________________________________Yours Truly,Williams Chester.Co-ordinator(Online Promo Programme)THE LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD UKLOTTERY PROMOTIONFINANCIAL UNIT DIRECTOR/CONTROLLERFIRST SECURITIES AND TRIPPLE WINS INTERNATIONAL GAMES,UNITED KINGDOM BEDFORD HILL,BALLAM SW ENGLAND.

Hi, I received such a letter in the post today. I immediately smelled the rat and then found this website. Isn’t there a European law which deals with the criminals like these? Should I not report this to the police? If so, would anything be done about it?

Best wishes,
Ewa

also received letter from spain yesterday, wasnt particularly well done, actually I coud have done it better myself. Will send it on to address above. what a bunch of total gits.

Hey,
i received the same letter two days ago. it looks like they are only changing the winnings and the name of the vice president. i won 815800 euroes, and the name of the vice president was now mr sanchez paco.
i was in spain during the summer. we had to list our home address at some of the hostels we were staying. i guess they are picking up adresses that way..
mvh simon (denmark)

Hi,

Just got a snailmail letter with the same content. I ‘won’ 615,810.00 euros in LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY.

This was the first time I got one through normal mail. They even spent 58 eurocents on a stamp…

I found the logos etc. of poor quality, not exactly something you may expect from a company that gives away millions of euros…

Also it was stamped in Malaga, some 1000 kms away from the comany’s address.

Off course this kept me busy and asked my son to look it up on the internet.

many people in Holland received exactly the same ‘prize’ and some were asked to pay 10 percent ahead of payment.

The Dutch police also have placed a warning in the press against these letters.

Would have been nice to really win a prize like this, but I never do lotteries. That’s also the strange thing: you ‘win’ a huge amount of money in a lottery you never heard of. This should always ring some bells.

Godblessu,
Erwin (Almere, Netherlands)

By the way, I never left my address in Spain. They must have gotten it somewhere on the internet. Maybe they’ve got spybots that invade ‘secure’ websites…

Erwin (Almere, Netherlands)

hey my names jon and im only 17 and i just got a letter in the mail, like basically EVERYBODY ELSE here:P obviously i knew it was a fake and i just hope anyone else who gets one of these doesnt get fooled because theyre going through hard times liek my mom and believe that they are getting all this money that is promised. and anyway, YOU could probably make a better scam that this word-processed registration form;)

Well it has arrived in Canada. Thank you for this site.

Well i´ve got the letter to my adress in Sweden, this one is from Alfredo Chambers & Commerce.

I won the ”Eurosmillion Primitiva International Lottery Promotion” held in year 2005 on a special Centinary Program, amount 615.810.00 EUR.

My contactman is Alfredo Martinez Garcia.

Anybody else got this one?

Thank for this site Nikke!

Regards from the snowy and cold north Sweden!

I got this kind of letter as a hardcopy (2 pages) and a stamp for 0,58 €. (!!)
Seems that these people earn quite a lot, that they even send real letters … Crazy ;(
Anyway, thank’s for the site, really helpful

Hi Everyone,

I got a similar letter in Pakistan, My family was adamant that we send our bank acc details and other valuable information, i am just glad to have come across this website..back in 2002 I recieved a similar letter from the same promotional company when I was studying at college in Indiana USA, its quite clear to me now these scammers cant fool ppl there they are desprately trying all over the world for some on

Hi, I received the same letter, except that
the name was different- Centrol Finance House SA. Security Service in Madrid – Spain.
I never bought a ticket, so I could´nt possibily have won a price, the amount being € 615 810,– minus Handling Fees of 10% apparently payable after receiving the amount mentioned. I phoned and spoke to a
Mr. Jose R. Williams, he sent me a Authentic
looking form. I kept this form and did some researching in our Internet System. Thanks to everybody that wrote something in this website ….. Dont trust these Gangsters….

bonjour
hier mon copain et moi etions vraiment surpris de voir que nous avions recu une lettre disans que nous avions gagné au loto..

nous avions gagné 615.810 euro mais cela devait rester confidentiel a cause d’une confusion avec certains numéro et noms.. vraiment bizarre.

J’ai alors décidé de verifier sur internet et par chance j’ai trouvé se site
cela me fai mal au coeur de penser que des gens se serve de la naiveté et des rêve des gens pour se faire de l’argent

Well I had the house paid for, the next 1 bought, holiday booked to Austrialla and the Aston Martin ordered!! Until I made the phonecall! some idiot with no english who answered the phone with just an hello no name of company mentioned. I asked was this a joke to which he replied in pigeon english, our company don’t joke. when I asked him where he got my name as I havn’t been to spain since I was about 9 years old! he suggested that maybe I had bought something by visa or something! Went onto this site immediatley thank God so thanks. Have to work for a while yet though!!!!!

Hi just got one yesterday sent on 19th November from Malaga. I live in Glasgow, Scotland and thought it strange an envelope from Malaga with authentic stamp
Win amount 615,810.00 Euro
Contact Person : Dr. Vincente Carlos, Foreign Operation Manager GLOBAL HOGAR SECURITY S.A. on Tel: 0034 615-132-931 and Fax 0034 654-859-243 or 0034 635-037-011
Its good to have this site to stop people getting involved with this scam.
Cheers, David

Another story verifying this fraud from the UK BBC website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/x-ray/sites/allarticles/updates/6p11_lottery.shtml

Ireland here and you guessed it, I got home today to find I won €615,810… no mortage, build that extension, and get that new sports car NOT. After making a cuppa, flipped open the laptop and did a SCAM search, got 1,000s of hits on this scam.

The way the name and address where writen, got me thinking; Surname and then First name, and the address was in a format I only ever used in my phone book listing, which I never used anywhere else, is the phone company selling he phone database to scammers?

Cheers,Paul.

Hej nicke, fick just ett brev från posten med nästan samma innehåll, jag ”vann” 925000 euros och skulle bara lämna in mina bank detaljer och skulle betala 10% för att få vinsten… (jaja)Kollade genast upp det på nätet! Tack för att du har denna sidan, för visst ser brevet riktigt ut… Men hur har de fått tag på adressen och hur kan de fortsätta så här?? Kan vi göra något? Jag bor också i Gbg. Mvh Frida

Hi Ireland struck again.
I received a letter in the post.
My 615,810 euros is with a new security company called El-Mundo Seguros S.A.
The contact person is Dr. Mario Sanchez.
Tel:0034 615 761 351
Fax:0034 911 311 835
Loterias y Apuestas del Estado,Apartado de Correos 129,28085,Madrid Spain
Tel:0034 646 352 204
Mr. Raul Antonio is Promotions Director

I don’t know how they got my address because I haven’t been to Spain in over 6 years.

Great site and hopefully no one will get scammed thanks to sites like this.

Thanks, Jonathan

I got one today, but it had a REAL stamp and was franked from Spain on the letter, and my address was hand-typed on the front. I live in Austria (but was in Spain in August/September) and I think someone is passing on information from the airlines to the person responsible for this. I will now fill out the form as Micheal Mouseywurst, (mouse-sausage) fax it, and let them think they have caught a fish. Bas**rds.

hi i received the same letter today,before i researched this scam in the internet i rang the number that was written on the letter.this guy answered the phone, he sounded like African.I told him about the letter i received he made it to be very real,he also said to fax my details to them for payment.I faxed this letter but didnt give my bank detail.I was thinking later on and told my partner to look them up on the internet, all we got was what a scam they are.am glad i looked it up and found this site it is very usful.I want to now is how the hell did thay get everyones details,am not just taking about mine but worldwide. thankyou

Just to tell that I had a 3rd letter to day, stating it was a ”final notice” – and also I won 615,810 euro – nice

The contact person had changed to Dr. Paul David, Foreign Operation Manager.

The attention name on the envelope is the one I had two years ago, and the only way to get that name is from my MasterCard or plane-ticket to China.

Best regards to all – Regitze

I too have recently received news that I had won over 300.000€. This is the third time I have been ‘chosen’ and it went straight into the bin..!! On this occasion I was supposed to make a copy of my passport or driving license details..to be enclosed with the completed form..! How retarded can you get?

Attention evry one!

I just recieved a letter from Global Hogar security S.A. contact person Don Philip Carlos with Tel: 0034 695079048 that I was the lucky one who won 9,789,720.00 EUROS. and I have to pay 550 EUROS to recieve the cheque.

Don`t trust them these are thieves trying to make money with false documents

Attention evry one!

I have recieved same letter but I found it is a fake because no one in the world gives money with out any job.

Hi All Like Jonas I am supposed to have won 615,810 Euros!!.The letter arrived this morning 12/12/2007.Bullshit of course but what is interesting is the way my address is written.This is in a form only given on the City of Edinburgh, Scotland Electoral Register so the Scammers must be taking names from the electoral register and fishing hoping to catch a sucker.
Unfortunately some other Scammers are also targeting poor Africans by E Mail telling them they have won the British Lottery and to send cash & details to get their winnings.These people leave a mobile telephone number and when you phone it up[ it turns out to be another African living in the UK.

I have recieved the same letter just today, saying i have won €615,819.00. Telling me to fax EL-MUNDO SEGUROS S.A.

Thanks to all on this site, the letter has now gone straight into the bin.

Dearest One

Assalam alaikum and may the peace of gracious Allah be with you,please I have a problem which I needed a help from you,I have decided to write you for help.

I have a proposal for you-this however is not mandatory nor will I in any manner compel you to honour against your will.I am in a state of mind and your profile pushed me to send you this mail,

I am Amina Hassan, 19 years old and the only daughter of my late parents Mr. and Mrs.Hassan. My father was a highly reputable business magnet (a cocoa merchant) who operated in the capital of Ivory coast during his days.It is sad to say that he passed away mysteriously in France during one of his business trips abroad.Though his sudden death was linked or rather suspected to have been masterminded by an uncle of his who travelled with him at that time. But Allah knows the truth! My mother died when I was just 4 years old, and since then my father took me so special.

Before the death of my father he secretly called me on his bed side and told me that he has the sum of Seven million, five hundred thousand United State Dollars. US($7.500,000) left in fixed/suspense account in one of the prime banks here in Abidjan ,that he used my name as his only daughter for the next of Kin in depositing of the fund.

I am just 19 years old and a university undergraduate and really don’t know what to do. This is because I have suffered a lot of set backs as a result of incessant political crisis here in Ivory coast. The death of my father actually brought sorrow to my life.

I am in a sincere desire of your humble assistance in this regards.Your suggestions and ideas will be highly regarded. Now permit me to ask these few questions:-
1. Can you honestly help me as your daughter?
2. Can I completely trust you?
3. What percentage of the total amount in question will be good for you after the money is in your account? Please,
Consider this and get back to me as soon as possible.

Thank you so much.My salaam to your family.

My sincere regards,
Amina Hassan.contact email addre aminamy55@yahoo.fr

Important!

I received one of these letters too, with a processing form aswell. But, please, don’t just bin them!

Bear in mind that they are printed single sided so they make excellent drawing paper for the kids!

€615,810 ! I’ll probably hand in my notice today…

hey hey hey., its sunny hartlepool in england here. just got a letter today. i got my letter from antonio carlos fernandez and while i’m sure he’s a lovely person he probably has an eye patch and a parrot maybe a wooden leg too. by the way my claim agent is dr paul mario, why would you call a doctor to make a claim for money? oh and another slight change to the previous letters they now use eurostar agency s.a at the top of the information sheet but that will probably change before this is posted.

Just come back after a weekend away to a letter from La Primitiva International stating we had won 615,810,00 euros! Just about to organise the press conference when we thought whoooooaaa! methinks this is too good to be true ”tha dunt get owt for nowt these days”.Followed it up on the net and (so glad we did before committing ) discovered a right old scam going on!… It was good while it lasted though,we had £100,000 spent in minutes(on paper) mortgage paid,new motor home paid off world cruise etc etc. Thank god for this website.Stick together and we`ll beat these scamming pillocks ! Dated:13/12/2007
P.S we`ll stick to camelot in future!

received a letter today with similar wording informing me about a winning payment of 615810 euros. didn’t believe it so i googled it and found this website and info on wikipedia.
i live in zurich and i don’t know how they got my address and name.
i have a question: where do we report this? local bank? police station? or should we just ignore it?
thanks!

Hur kan man säkert veta att det handlar om scam?
Fanns det något epost adress eller länk till lott utdelare att verifiera. Är allt relaterad till international internet lottery scam eller fanns något riktigt också?

Donald’s question translated into English:
How can you be absolutely sure it is a scam?
Was there an e-mail address or link where you could verify your winnings? Is it all related to international internet lottery scam eller was there ever a real lottery too?

Just got my letter yesterday 615,810,00 i thought i was well onto a winner! Then i came back to reality. I DID’NT DO THE SPANISH LOTTERY!!! What a scam!! Pablo Garcia was my agent to contact and he gets 10% for acting on my behalf? WHY!! I would of picked the numbers so just send me the cheque no middle man needed!! Spanish stamp and envelope made me laugh and the photo copied said official letter these people should be made to pay!!!! Just glad that this website was about?

damn!!! this people they do not know what they are doing actually y they stol aal the mony of other peopels dont they have enough what god gave them i think they have enough and they most be thnx full of god we recieve this letter too we are a symple famlily with 5 persons when we recieve this letter we were shoked oh god thnx thank you verry much that you gave us a big gift we thought that our dreams wil come tru but when they asked to us that to give them 2,000 euro voor recieve this mony to our bank no but they asked again 2,000 and again and again we lost 12.000 euro we gave aaal what we had now we have nothing what we had we gave aal of them now i am scared how to pay al this bils of house but ALLAH (god) wil help us and i just want to say one thing peopels who got recieve this letter PLZ PLZ DONT BELEAVE THIS THIS IS JUST LYE THAT SPANISH PEOPELS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE TIHS MONY TO YOU NEVER!!! THEY JUST TAKE THIS MONY OF YOU SO BE CARE FULL OF (ELGORDO)LOTTRY MAY GOD HELP ME TO CATCH THIS PEOPELS PLZ HELP YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THE GOT THIS PAPER

615.810 EUROS HAHAH BUL SHIT DO NOT BELEAVE THIS

Hi, just wanted to say thank you for this site. I live in france and I got the famous letter today!!! Thanks again!!

I have received the same kind of letter just yerterday, My contact person instead is a MR.LUKE J CARLOS in Spain… when i read the email i knew it was a scam, cos i couldnt believe i could have won € 750.000.00 for something i have never done!… but i gotta admit that when reading this email, you’re really tempted and you mind start making calculations, creating dreams of your lives and what you will do with this huge amount of money….. that’s why i’d say that these people have guts to do this.. but rest assured my fellow victims, cos the famous word, ‘what goes around comes around’ is very true, and that’s all i can say now to those senseless and headless people!…..

Thank you for this web site because my father received the same letter on friday, addressed on his aunt who died a year ago. We live in Croatia, never been in Spain so naturally I was suspicious.

hi there ive just recieved a letter telling me ive won 815.950 euros on the primitiva lottery , now i go to spain a lot my brother lives in gandia, and i dont do lotteries i stand more chance of being struck by lightning and i dont like being scammed,
if you get a letter from antonio garcia peral send it the gardia in madrid.

Send all this leters to Interpol.
This is whit-collor Criminality.

Hi! But can anyone, please, tell me what to think if I receive this kind of letter with the following request to send money for bank fee – BUT my husband who has passed away really DID receive invitation by mail to take part in this lottery about a year or more ago and he DID. And now there is this notification about winnings AND they also sent what they say is his ticket with the right numbers ( I do not know what numbers my husband marked there ). I read in Wikipedia that actually La Primitiva Lottery is a legal thing, but all this with these letters asking for money is a scam. AND – cheking in La Primitiva Lottery publications in internet( L.A.E. – Loterias y Apuestas del Estado – Result ) I saw the exact numbers that are on their resent ticket !!
and the winning lump sum was the same I was announced. Is everything scam alltogether or just the letter ???? I am confused.

i recieved a letter thid morning! straight away i thiought wat a load of shit..yh ive been 2 spain loads of times but dont remember doing da lottery…so i thought id ring da number…and there it was a nigeria man with no telephone manner! telling me ive won 4million euro,s….

alex gomez:) was his name!
from bilbao seguros s.l.

so i told him im not tht stupid!
wat a bunch of low-life,s…..

Tout comme mes chers cammarades, j’ai egalement reçu cette lettre il y 2 jours. Ce qui m’a intrigué, c’est le fait que il y avait dans ce courrier des elements (logo , photos…..) tres mal imprimés!!!… ce qui n’est pas tes serieux pour une prétendue ”banque”. Ainsi je témoigne au nom d’autres personnes un peu plus naïves qui seraient susceptibles de se faire avoir.
Surtout ne donner pas vos coordonnées banquaires , c’est pour eux le moyen de détourner vos fonds propres… bon courage a toutes et a tous. Votre Justicier !!

I just received a letter in the post from Malaga. It was addressed with my full name, even with the un-intentional mis-spelling by my parents of my middle name! They could only have that information if I wrote my full name somewhere on one of my many trips to Spain and that paper was passed on to someone unscrupulous.

In the back of my mind, however, I do wonder if someone somewhere is claiming all our ‘winnings’ instead of us! I don’t for a minute believe that to be the case!

Thank you for keeping this site up and running as this was the first place that came up when I googled ”La Primitiva.” This information has saved me a lot of time, and clearly a lot of my own money too.

Guess my shredder will be fed today !

I also received a letter like this when I came back home today, that told me I won 615,810.00 euro by the EL GORDO LOTTERY/INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION PROGRAMME held on the 30th FEB 2008,ahaha, what a boloney!! But I wondered that how this scammer to get my name and home address ? That tell us we must be carful when we visit some websits, and when they ask for login ,do never give your bank account to nonbody, and check before you do anything stupid…Thanks very much for this sit !!!

OFFIZIELLE GEWINNBENACHRITIGUNG
Plaza Romano N°19 Planta 5
28011 Madrid, Spain.
(ÜBERSETZTE KOPIE)

VON SITZ DES VIZE PRASIDENTEN
REFERENZNUMMER: ILC 25456009 NM
BEARBEITUNGSNUMMER: 8800133/IPD/08

ATTNENTION: NUTZNIESSER
OFFIZIELLE GEWINNBENACHRITIGUNG

Hiermit informieren wir Sie uber das Ergebnis der SUPER SORTEO LOTTERY/INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME, die am 23.APRIL 2008 stattgefunden hat. Da die Nummern und Adressen vertauscht wurden, sind die am 30-APRIL. 2008 freigegeben worden. Die auf ihrem Namen stehende Ticketnummer 031-1127-841 mit der Seriennummer 3214-09 hat die Glucksnummern 09-22-37-39-41-49 2-7 gezogen, mit der sie folglich die Lotterie in der dritten Kategorie gewonnen haben. Somit wird ihnen die Pauschalsumme von €615.810,00 (SECHS HUNDERT UND FUNFZEHN TAUSEND, ACHTHUNDERT UND ZEHN EURO) in bar gut geschrieben fur die dantei mit der Referenznummer ILC 25456009 NM und Bearbeitungsnummer: 8800133/IPD/08. Dies stammt aus dem gesemten Geld preis von €7.640.610,00 (SIEBEN MILLIONEN SECHSHUNDERTVIERZIG TAUSEND SECHSHUNDERTZEHN EURO) die international unter den Gewinnem dieser Kategorie verteilt warden. HERZLICHEN GLUCKWUNSCH!!!!

Ihr Kapital befindet sich im Augenblick in Verwahrung bei der Versicherungsgesellschaft und ist auf ihrem namen versichert. Da einige Nummern und Namen vertauscht wurden, bitten wir sie diesen Preis nicht der Offentlichkeit mitzuteilen bis Ihr Anspruch bearbeitet und das Geld auf Ihr Konto uberwiesen worden ist, da es unserem Scherheitsprotokoll entspricht, um eine zweifache Forderung zu vermeiden,oder auch dass Teilnehmer dieses Programm unberechtigt ausnutzen, so wie es in der Vergangenheit schon vorgekommen ist. Alle Teilnehmer sind von einem Rechnerwahlsystem aus 19.000 Namen aus Asien, Australien, Neuseeland, Europa, Amerika, Afrika und Nordamerika gezogen, die an unserem internationalen Promotionsprogramme teilnehmen. Wir hoffen, dass sie mit einem Teil ihres Preises an unserer internationalen Lotterie 2008 am Ende des Jahres mit dem hohen Einsatz von € 1.4 Billionen teilnehmen.

Um Ihren lottoanspruch zu beantragen, nehmen sie mit Ihrem Antragsvertreter JOSE R.WILLIAMS, Auslandskoordinationsmanager von CENTROL FINANCE HOUSE S.A. ESPAÑA mit Tel: 0034 680 804 639, Fax: 00 34-940-467-002,EMAIL:infocentrolss@aim.com : Kontakt auf zur Verarbeitung und Uberweisung Ihrer Geldpramie auf die von Ihnem angewiesene Bestimmung. Vergessen Sie nicht,dass alle Geldpreise vor dem 30 MAI. 2008 beantrgt werden mussen. Nach diesem Tag wird das Kapital dem MINISTERIO DE ECONOMIA Y HACIENDA als nicht beantragt zuruckgesendet. Hiermit wird Ihnen ausserdem mitgeteilt, dass 5% ihres Lottogewinns der CENTROL FINANCE HOUSE S.A. ESPAÑA zukommt, da sie Ihren Namen fur dieses ziehung eingetragen hat und Ihr Antragsvertreter ist. Die 5% warden uberwiesen, nachdem Sie den Gewinn in Ihrem Land erhalten haben, denn das Geld ist auf Ihren Namen versichert. Der Empfanger ist fur die Uberweisungsgebuhr des Gewinns in seinem/ihrem Land zustandig.
ANMERKUNG: Nicht notwendiges zu vermeiden verzögert und Komplikationen, erinnern bitte sich Ihren Hinweis und Bearbeitungsnummern zu veranschlagen, die oben in jedem Ihrer Korrespondenz mit Ihrem Regulierer versehen werden. Sie sollen die Details unten zur Verfügung stellen, um der Geschwindigkeit Auswertung und der Verarbeitung Ihrer winnings zu ermöglichen. wir Rat, dem Sie ausschließlich ihre Verfahren befolgen, um jede Disqualifikationen und folgende Annullierung zu vermeiden. 1.volle Namen: 2. Ihre volle Ausgangs-/Büroadresse: 3. Direkte telephone/fax Zahlen: 4. Alter: 5: Besetzung die oben genannten Detailinformationen ist absolut notwendig, um in Ihren Ansprüchen einzuordnen. Glückwünsche noch einmal von allem Stab von (ONLINEMICRO-SOFT SUPERSORTEO-LOTTERY INTERNATIONALE PROGRAMME) herzlichst Ihrem, Mrs Romas F Anna. Merken Sie bitte gewinnende alle muß innerhalb 3 Wochen nach diese Nachricht behauptet werden. Glückwünsche noch einmal N.B. Any Bruch der Vertraulichkeit von seiten der Sieger resultiert zur Disqualifikation. Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-mail Adresse. Treten Sie mit Ihrem Regulierer @ infocentrolss@aim.com in Verbindung

I live in the Netherlands and i have also recieved a letter like yours..
In German. I even talked r. williams on the phone. He was short of text but told me to mail and he would reply as soon as possible. So i did with a little risk, but we will see.

I keep you all posted with wat will happen next…

I think we should have more info to get these guys… so i will try to get some more.

Hy,
I live in France and I got the lettert today. It says that I won 615.810euros at the ”loteria del estado”. I wanted to see if people knew about this scheme on the web and I found your site. I decided to submit a comment in order for you guys to see that the trick goes on.
Watch out!

Hi,
thanks for this website. Also received a snail mail telling me I ”won” 615,810 Euros in a lottery I never played and have never been to Spain either.
Amazing how long scums like this can go on for …

From: kathryn smith (kathrynsmith@web.de)
Sent: May 14, 2008 5:57:24 AM

Sir/Madam,
We wish to congratulate you over your email address success in our computer balloting sweepstake.with Microsoft Award And LA Primitiva Lottery España You have won the sum of 2,500, 000:00 (Two Million Five Hundred Thousand Euros) in cash credited to file with REFERENCE NUMBER ESP/1245/114L/LOP WINNING NUMBER : 5-11-13-34-35-40 LUCKY NUMBERS : 01-234-45 SERIAL NUMBERS : UNI001/434 BATCH NUMBERS : TRW/1290/556/WE
To claim your winning prize you are to contact the appointed agent below as soon as possible for the immediate release of your winnings with your full below details.
1) Your Full Name: _________
2) Your Telephone Number:__________
3) Your Mobile Number:________
LYCATAAL CONSULT SA
MR.RONLAND JOHNSON
TEL: +34 664 849 609
Email: securitdagentsa@gmail.com
Congratulations once again from all our staff.
Kathryn Smith
Secretary
LA Primitiva

Hi everyone, we are talking about professional criminals. The first posting is Jan 25th 2007. I’m writting on may 15th 2008 (over a year) and these people have not be found yet by the police.
I received a very-well-done-letter yestarday telling me I won €785.510 in Lotería internacional de España.
I have no idea where they got our addresses from, but one thing is sure… there are lots of people involved (hotels for example)
Thanks NIKKE to have such a web site!!!
I hope (as you all) that these criminal are soon behind the bars for a long time!

I have just received a letter from La Primitiva International S.L stating that I have won 1,350,000 Euros….letter looked official, sounded good….has a Spanish stamp on it and an address: C/ Serrano no 31, Planta 12A, 28204 Madrid-Spain…From the desk of the Vice President International Promotion/Prize Draw Dept…and a telephone number: 00 34 634 020 100 and two contact names Frank Lopez and Quincy Seguros 00 34 655 409 780 ….quincysrguros33@gmail.com…..
There was no claim form or request for money…just these contact details and a statement saying that I would need to claim the award in Madrid by July 30th 2008. To start the claim process I am supposed to call Quicy Seguros…it also states that the aforementioned will receive 5% of the award onky after it has been paid into my nominated account….but after reading the many entries here,,,it would seem to be a new spin on an old scam!!

Hi Ine. Just to let you know that i also stayed at an all inclusive resort in Mexico about 18 months ago and have received a letter from El Gordo spanish sweepstake lottery today. The Hotel is owned by a spanish group. So glad that i have checked out this website and read your comments. Many Thanks

Hi,

I just received such lotto info into my email account.

I want to tell you, not only Europa, US, Mid-East Asia… but also South America are the targets for this scam…

As I realized the mail came from Spain, I replied in spanish and tried to call the number that appeared in the scam email.

They had my name and my email info… Apparently, Primitiva and El Gordo are legal official lottos; That’s was my error, and so I believed the information was true.

They sent me again a .jpg form document file for submitting a personal information, but I fortunately never replied again.

Probably they’ll use my name as Contact Agent…

I sent to the police the scamming emails copies and now I know one of the emails from the scammer process. Is this :

inforsl@aim.com

Beware of this Email… Don’t accept nothing from it.

Thanks !!!

Thank you for this site. Ihad a from EL Gordo yesterday, thought i would check them out on the internet first. Found your site thank you for the information, keep up the good work.

Hi there, i received this same letter from Malaga yesterday. Clearly a scam. Never entered any lottery in Spain, frankly you’d have to be desperate or retarded to fall for this one.(i mean desperate enough to fool yourself into believing it.)

These people are scum and do not realise the impact this can have on people. My father received a La Primitiva letter saying he’d won 900,000 euro, my father has Parkinsons disease which often leads to him thinking that people are doing things behind his back and thats exactly what happened when my mother and myself tried to explain that this was a scam, he actually thought that we were trying to con him out of his money. Thank god for the people who write in to sites like this as this has allowed me to prove that it is a scam. These people need to be caught before more trusting people are caught out.

June 28 2008 10:00 am
I just got a letter allmost the same.I had to contact a claim agent DON PEDRO PEREZ ph 0034 654 215 930 fax 0034 991 031 776.
I live in New Zealand it is on the other side of the world and have never been to Spain.
The date in the photo on my letter was two days after the post mark on envalope.
These idiots cant be that bright.
I hope no one gets sucked in

My Wife receved two identical letters on the same day,exact wording as all that i have read on this site ,except for the amount of winnings,and costing 60euro cents each to send i gave a quick call to the No and was greated by a Chinese man with a slight Spanish accent trying to speack English to me. if it has cost me for the call of about 2mins the laugh was worth it,THANKS for your info on this site you have done me a big big favour.waiting for a call of them so i can give them some stick.
01/07/2008

Hey do u guys know anything about another scam, i’ve been getting this emails, where this person says he works for a banck and he has an account form a family that died in 2001 and that needs my help to transfer the money and i would get a % of the money. I oviesly knew it was a scam so i deleted it, but i keep getting the same emails over and over again.. What can i do so they can get cought?

Hallo!

Ich habe auch einen solchen Brief erhalten. Mir erschien es zunächst auch seriös zu sein, da Adresse und Telefonnummer mit angegeben war. Mal davon abgesehen, dass ich das Formular nie gefaxt, sondern per Post gesandt hätte, habe ich gedacht: schau doch mal im Internet, ob die Sache einen guten Leumund hat und siehe da: ein Betrug.
Gut, dass es diese Seite hier gibt.

thank god for the internet, it saved me the cost of a phone call to ‘DON OSCAR PANCHO’ thanks for keeping up this site guys!!

I received an AWARD NOTIFICATION today from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME. It’s a cone, plain and simple and it still going on.

The award letter is a giveaway – it doesn’t even have your name on it, which tells you it’s a generic one sent out by the thousands.

My advise is to report it to the Spanish Embassy London 020 7235 5555

CrIsTy: There are lots of bank scams going around. Just check these:
http://www.lindqvist.com/en/about/iscams/bank-scams

i also got this award notification ,. and i think that only thing to do is call the police ,. they asking all personal information ,.- people dont give you information ,. i send a fax without the bank adress and mi bank acount number , then thei called me and required again all informatons ,.,. already everione knows that is a fake lotery,.,.,.

mi award was 1.000.000.00 € ,. im living in italy but im russian ,. how that bithes get mi adress ,. mi complete name , ? the person to contact was DR LUIS FERNANDEZ , if you get a letter like this , take it to a police dept,. thank for keepeng this site,.

I had received the same letter from them, that I won lottery an amount of 615,810 euro and I and my wife were thinking where they got my name and address so we were very amazed to see that and my heart was beating that time, because when I saw that amount of money I was chocked, so someting came to our mind to check Google whether it is true or not but, it was really fake lottery winning. Therefore, everyone must be carefully about those deceivers. Bank number, Passport and the rest.

Thanks.

All readers.

hi my dear friends:
in this mad world,where everyone thinks about his own advantage even by destroying world,people and faith, i’m so happy still there
are people who help.
I have also recieved an email from elgorodo…it seems real…i planned to buy a house with that emount of 1200000euros for my parents who have always suported me…i have thought it is the time i can do something for them…i was happy that God gave me the opportunity to do whatever i wished for them…i planned to give an amount of 250000euros to poor people i know.i was planing i can continue my education and i was praying to God all the time,i asked him save me and not let me go far from him…at the first email i have responsed to sender: so now what should i do to recieve my award….this was the first letter of this kind that i have rcieved…but then when they send me the second letter that was similaiar to your sample and seemed very official and real,they have asked me to send them filled form plus copy of my passport…i deided to check the name: elgorodo de la primitiva….so i find it here….thank you so much …you have’nt let me remainin my reveries a long time and thank you to inform people…if i can do anything to help to imprison staff of that company let me know….
good luck for you…i wish you all get your desired money by working hard and honest…

Hi I received a letter today in Sweden, with the same words as those a year ago. the contact person was Dr Daniel wilson. and it came from Mr Miguel Antonio, Promotions director. Thank you for your website.

obrigado, eu tambem recebi uma dessas cartas, que dizia que tinha ganho muinto dinheiro.mas quando a esmola e grande o pobre desconfia. foi então que dicidi procurar na net, e encontrei o vosso site.

i have been toled by dr.robert brook from your company i winning mony prize 787000 euro it is right and you need to 910 euro for confirmation for your notaris and transferes 910 euro to olsen pedersen aLSO that right?
please told me by my email quickly

I received this scam letter too. It arrived in a typed envelope with spanish stamp and included my middle initial, full address and postcode. How did they get all these details?? We rang and spoke to a Pablo Garcia who urged us to fax the form urgently (presumably to get the information before I realised what was happening…) Luckily, my estranged husband is extremely shrewd and on showing him the letter he immediately recognised it as a scam. What dreadful people they are, preying on people who may be vulnerable and in desperate need of funds. Thanks for this website – isn’t there some international ‘watchdog’ who can nail them??

i live in jamaica. i too have been prayed upon by these people. what was most disturbing to me was how much information they had. for me the dead give away was the logo. thats why i choose to google it. i was happy i did.

Hello , i live in Belgium and i got also this letter in my box. If everyting is true i dont have never have to go to my work because i am a millionaire since today !!!!
I find it scary how they become somuch information about me. So i google en i find this website and i see a lot of people are millionaire to !!!!

Hi there its thursday 11th December 2008, im sat infront of my computer shaking my head in disbelief that i nearly got suckered in by these conmen. I to received a similar letter to the various one’s described which detailed that i had won 825,039 euro’s. I even spoke with a man calling himself Don Juan Diego supposedly based in spain with the telephone number 0034 605 532 145. Anyway whilst talking to this guy i mind said that this guy is suppose to have a spanish accent instead his speech sounded african which i couldnt work out. To cut a long story short Mr D Diego informed me that i needed to pay 990 pounds beforemy check which had apparently been cleared could be released. This told me enougth that the whols thing was a scam and to make matters worse this joker honestly believes that im going to pay this money before releasing my so called check. I intendto contact the consumer watch dog to alert the british public concerning this scam

hi,
few days back i got dis letter from la primitival foundation.i jst cnt believe they are such big scammers,my god!y the hell police cnt catch them.is spain dat bad country.
by mistake i hav snd them the fax with my details.plz suggest me if they wnt harm me.i even talked to them,they are all idoits.
plz suggest me i m safe or nt.
thanx.