El Gordo de la Primitiva Lottery International Promotions Programmes

Georg Pétur submitted a very similar scam which I published in a seperate post:
The Holland Casino Lotto Promo Int

Hello…I received the exact letter a couple of days ago. I thought of checking the internet before any further action and I’m glad I found this website. Thank you for showing this info to the public, it’s very helpful.

Thank you so much for this site! I have received a letter earlier very much alike with the letter in your site that I won in a lottery. The letter was well-done right? It seemed to be credible and was well-written. I hope everyone would read this and find this page so they can avoid that stupid and fraud people!

Hy I received one of this letters tittled LA PRIMITIVA and is asking me to keep it a secret, beacouse of their so called ”security protocol”
Im taking this to some wachdog or organization

Hey, I got one too. But I ONLY won $800K, bummer.

How did I get on THIS list?

My name is Pamela and I am disabled (I have no arms and my right leg is shorter than the left . I am from Sout Africa. For so long I have suffered because im poor. When I received this letter from Euromilliones Lottery I thought that finally something great had happened to me. I was so happy. Now I would be able to afford a medical Aid, I could live in a house I could call my own and fulfill a lifelong dream to buy a car that is specially designed for poeple like me who use their feet tgo do everything with my feet.This was my hope of a better future for myself because I do not have the finances to cover all my medical costs and to further my studies.I want to be a lawyer. As per usual my dreams were crushed and I was disappointed yet again. So many people have made promises of financial assistance and a whole lot of othet things to me and just never happened. I saw this as a great gift in my life .What a dissapontintment again.I wish I could put this man in jail so that he does not do this to people like me. I thought that my life would change for the better instead, it’s gettin worse and worse everyday thanks to people who use El Gordo Lottery to make people like me happy and then rip your heart out and that tiny piece of hope that life will get better fades , like your dreams into thin air.

Pamela Gower
[phone numer and e-mail address removed by admin]

Pamela,

That’s so sad to read. And it is because of people like you I keep this site up.

As humans, we want to beleive in other people. We want to think good of others, and when good things seem to happen to us, we want them to be true.

I do really hope that the people behind the El Gordo Lottery will get caught in some way, but I’m sad to say that I really can’t see how it would happen.

// Nikke

Sir,
I received a letter from International Lotto
Commission, in which i came to know that i won
a lump sum prize money of euros 315,810:00
from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY PROMOTOINS
PROGRAM held on 22nd day of january 2007.
I was asked to contact my agent for settlement of
my claims on the contact no. mentioned in the
letter. My agent said me to fill the Release Order
Form{FORM BVB} which i received along with
the letter. After i faxed my FORM BVB, my agent
is saying to deposit euros 575 and 20 cents to his
bank account as the transfer charges that will be
charged by the bank for transfering my winning
amount.
Now i just want to know about the authenticity
of the letter i received and also the bank charges
i have to pay as said by my agent for transfer of
prize money.
Please reply to my query as soon as possible.
Thanking you.
Yours faithfully,
Md.Rizwan Nezam.

As you can see here, so many people have received the same, or almost the same letter as you.

Try telling the agent that they can deduct the bank chanrges from your winnings.

Your letter is just a scam, just as our letters where.

I have also received a similar letter where the agent is asking to pay around 575 Euros (as insurance nod coverage for the fund) and has given details of the Bank A/C, Bk name, address, Swift code , etc where it is supposed to be deposited. The agent has also called & mailed me for the same. I this a fraud.
Is there any offcial phone nos of La Primitiva Lottery to verify.
Has anyone ever got mney deposited in his/her account

HI EVERYONE I GOT A LETTER FROM SPAIN A FEW DAYS AGO DIDNT PAY MUCH ATTEBTION TO IT THEN RECIEVED ANOTHER LETTER SO I RANG UP FOR A LAUGH I WAS TOLD I WON 785510 EUROS I WAS LIKE GREAT GIMMIE THE MONEY THE PERSON ON THE PHONE THEN SAID TO ME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A PAYMENT OF 2 GRAND TO GET THE MONEY I TOLD HIM ON YA BIKE MATE THEN HE SAID WHY DONT YOU COME TO SPAIN WITH THE MONEY AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR WINNINGS HOME WITH YOU THIS HAS TO BE TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ????????

DOES ANY1 KNOW HOW TO VERIFY IF IT IS TRUE OR NOT???

Wll Kammy, if something seems to be too good to be true, it often is.

I received the same kind of letter today exactly the same wording like the document above ….even the lottery number are the same. Expect the signed name …Dr.Antonio Gomez

hi my name is ella and i recieved the same letter that other people are getting which was from el gordo de la primitiva lottery which said that i had one more than $16 million dollars and i had thought that my dreams had come true, but when my dear son looked it up on the interent i couldnt believe that alot of people had got the smae letter as i had and im very very disapointed and make me feel like going up to those stupid people and throwing them bahind bars forever I CANT BELIEVE THIS WAS A STUPID STUPID SCAM!!

WARNING IF THEY SEND YOU A LETTER LIKE THIS PLEASE DO NOT EXCEPT IT BECAUSE THEY RAE TRYING TO TEAR YOUR LIVES APART!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WATCH OUT YOU STUPID PEOPLE!

je viens de reçevoir la même lettre mon gains était de 615810€ j’ai fallit y croire mais avec toutes les mission sur les harnaques j’me suis dit s’en est peut être une j’ai vu sur le net et Dieu merci j’ai trouver se site pour ne pas yomber dans ce salle cout

I wish to thank Nikke’s Index for confirming my immediate belief that a letter I received from Loteria Primitiva was an elaborate scam. People who create such deceptions will eventually be caught and made to pay for their sad attitude towards their fellowmen.

What a scam is right. I received a letter yesterday almost identical. To start with how could we possibly win that kind of money in a country I do not live in, or have not visited in a few years. I was delighted to find your site with so much information about it. I was wondering is this legal? Can anything be done to pursue these people. What about all those people who do not have access to the internet or who would be gullable to believe it. I know all of us would love it was true. Anyway thank you Nikke’s.

It isn’t legal in any country that I know of.

Actually, I tried talking to the Swedish police about the Gotenborg SMS Lottery and the Nordic Lottery (both with clear Swedish connections) today. And when taking this to the police you face a few problems.

1. Where was the crime commited?
2. What precinct should handle it?
3. What if the scammers are actually situated in another country? What can the local Swedish police do?
4. What if most of the victims are from yet another country?

In most of these cases, the scammers are situated in a third world country (such as Nigeria), the victims are from another country than the one that might have a lottery company whose name is used for the scam, and (as is the case with the Gotemborg and Nordic SMS lotteries, most of the victims don’t really know enough English to see throuh the scam, or even communicate with the scammers…

I’ll keep you posted on the progress on my communication with the police in a seperate post.

I just got one of these letters too – it might’ve worked if I’d ever entered the El Gordo lottery ;o)

I am wondering how they got my name and address, mind. I did recently attend a trade show in Barcelona, where I was giving business cards to people, but still it seems puzzling.

Are you in any online cataloges?
Does your website state your name and address?

Remember. The scam doesn’t have to originate in Spain just because they are using a Spanish lottery as bait.

I have recieved a simillar letter, but it is an AWARD NOTIFICATION informing me that I have been approved a lump sum payment of 615,810.00 euros from a total cash prize of 9.237.150.00 euros.
Most of the wording is the same but the claims agent is different, a DR. JUAN SANCHEZ.
I have another letter accompanying this which is a payment processing form (P.P.F) asking if I want to be paid by a) Bank Transfer or b) Bank Cheque, asking for my bank details.
This is all well and good but there is two problems: 1) I have never played this lottery, 2) Why do they need my bank details when they already have my address to send the cheque to?
A Scam if ever I saw one!
PS If you want a copy of the bank details letter I can scan & e-mail it to you.

I have just received exactly the same letters as John above. Same amounts and same man in Spain, who I phoned up and said I was very suspicious but he said it was all genuine and to send back the forms.
Thank God for this web site.

Thanks Nick.

Am I the luckiest man in the whole world! Just received notification from mr mariano xavier maria managing director, international promotions/prize award dept, that i won the el gordo de la primitiva lottery. With my name printed on a blank enevelope and with spanish stamp mark from murcia, i was already thinking how to compose my last words to my boss to s.. off.

But like John, how come i have won a lottery which to my knowledge i didn’t even know that it existed? and is it a breach of the European Data Protection Act?

Thanks for this site to share our comments and hope that these culprits pay a high price when brought to justice.

I am so glad I looked this up!!! I can see how some people thought this was true. Luckily I have just gotten the letter and will not be going any further.

They said I had won 315,810.00 euros which worked out to be about 600,000.00 New Zealand and I was starting to calculate how much financial freedom I was going to have. My letter was from Don.Alfredo Rodriguez and my contact person was Don.Luis Fernando and it was sent from Spain (according to the postage stamps on the envelope). Like I said I’m so glad I looked this up. THANK YOU. These guys really suck and I hope one day soon they get caught, because this whole thing is very cruel.

I must say this got me going when I saw the spanish stamp etc but the first thing that came to my mind was send me the cheque you got my name and address.I knew when I continued to read this letter that it was fake I then looked this up on the internet and I found you lot..very clever thank god people turn to the net for advice.

I jus received the letter from Int. Lotto Commission …
saying that i jus won 615 euros. What a scam and falsebeing to be .. people beware this is nothing but another SCAM !!

I’m so pleased that I checked on Loteria Primitiva. I can’t believe what I have read from other people! My mom received exactly the same wording letter that she has won 634,338.29 euros and she has been jumping for joy. She feels that this is God send. She has already filled in the payment form and faxed it to them as she was told in their letter. I’ glad that I decided to check on this tonight. I’m shocked but my mom will be more shocked if I tell her what I have learnt on the net about this so called international lottery promoters.
Thank you very much .
Tina.

hi folks
i recieved same letter today 27/03/2007 and like every one i thought this is my lucky day, how ever i do know you cant win anything if you dont enter these various competitions and so i did know i could not have won but being greedy i thought i would check it out on internet. its a shame that people get caught out with these scams and its good we can view sites like this to check it out.
the letter i recieved was from el-gordo primitiva lottery s.l and the return address is madrid, spain and signed don carlos antonio, the same letter as everyone else and written on cheap printing paper, so please be aware of this scam and email everyone you know as i am going to do
thank you
alex from the uk

Hi,
I also received the same letter as all the others and nearly the same wordings.
I sent form by fax. They send me back fax of same that money in Banco Unicaja, whether there is such a bank, I dont know. After reading through your website, now I know that it is a scam. Fortunately Ive never divulge it to other people. Now I will. If ever it was a scam, my message to the scam doers is ”Whatever you sow you will reap”, maybe not now but surely later on.
Jo.

got an email from dr. peter raul…saying the same thing from la primitiva lottery in spain..any one dealt with this guy yet?

Wow don’t u just love the internet u can always find the the truth about things.
I was tempted but not send ID and only ask for a cheque and if they really wanted money for the processing of the prize money then they could take it out my winning….. But like many people say too good to be true!!!!!
Hmmm would have been nice tho just too many scams goin bout these days

Hi,
I also got notification mail as La Primitiva Lottery winning notification, it looks like a big scam, Any one ask for Bank Account details , be careful it’s a scam.
Be care ful of these stupid guys robbing your bank account.

take care, keep your hard earned money safe!!!
Raj

hi there
my name is anil
i have also recived this letter i would just like to know how they hot hold of my details as i am only 17 and not yet registerd for any thong major like the elcetoral stuff
who do you contct to reprt this, as i think it is a very crewal thing to do.

i also got the letter saying i had won 885,820,00 euros. i faxed them my bank account details and i am very aware if this is just a big scam for the stupid people trying just to get my money. the claims ajent’s name is don michiel fernandez and he lives in madrid spain. the lottery programe is : la primitiva lottery promotions programme ( new year high stake) they asked for the transer fee for the bank 2500 euros to desposit his name before me get the amount. so my word to you is to be careful cause you might lose your account to some stupid stealers pretending you won the lottery.it also says that 10% of your winning money belongs to caixa grupo seguros s.a. be caurful!!!!!!!! they printed the letter on 22nd of march 2007.it says you have to claim the money before april 20th 2007.

is there a way to get these people in trouble, i mean it cant be legal to do this crap to people… there was a legit looking check enclosed in the letter i got and i took it to the bank that was printed on the check which was a wachovia and they told me it was a bogus check (which i knew already) but seriously can these people get away with this… writing fake checks and stuff…

its the wonderful US of A… people get screwed all the time by these forgien tards… they shouldnt be allowed to do this crap…

Chris,

People are getting screwed not only in the US, but all over the world, and I guess more people loose money over this in Asia, North Africa and Eastern Europe, since there are more newcomers on the web around in those areas.

The problem with getting the authorities to act on these cases is that it is regarded as petty crime, misdemeanors. Then there is the problem with jurisdiction. It’s way beyond the local police force and the state police (or their equivalents in other countries), and too small for any federal agency to act upon.

Here in the European Union, we don’t have a EU police force, and even if we had, I doubt they A) could be bothered with investigating crime on this scale or B) would initiate international or even world-wide investigations going after gangs located all over the world.

I sound pessimistic, but when two national police forces have problems cooperating big-time fraud, how can we expect cooperation between 20 different national police forces? I think they all just sit around waiting for somebody else to take action.

Oh, and if any of you scammers has made it this far down on this page, don’t get your hopes up. You will get caught one day, and your potential victims are getting wiser.

Hi!
I recieved a letter today….yeah I ”won” a lot of money,haha, though I’ve never played this lottery?!
Please answer this, Nikke:
I don’t like the thought of them having my adress…do they know more about me..? How did they get MY adress?? My adress was perfect written, it even had an letter which is only found in scandinavian vocabulary…hmmmmm (I live in Norway…)
Thank you so much for this web site!!

Chels

Yeah, I recieved a letter today. It could be easily seen as a definate fake+scam. Thanks for this website, it reconfirmed everything. So no thanks Don Carlos Antonio, save your Microsoft Powerpoint skills for someone else !!!!1111

+ How did they get my address?!

Salut!
Je suis de la Guadeloupe et j’ai déja reçu cette lettre 3 fois au moins.
La dernière en date étaient(selon eux) la dernière qu’il m’enveraient puisque la date limite est le 26 avril 2007.
C’est vraiment dégueulasse ce que ces gens font : ils n’imaginenet pas le mal qu’ils peuvent faire autour d’eux. Il y a certainement des gens qui ont vraiment besoin de cet argent et eux ils en jouent.
En plus on dirai vraiment un document officiel avec en-tête et tout, logo, tampon et SURTOUT des noms et une signature à la main. (ou alors ils ont de très bon programmes pour faire que les trucs soient en relief!!)

Mais ce ki m’intrigue dans l’histoire c’est le but de ce genre d’organisation, en loccurence la loteria primitiva: c’est quoi en fait ? une arnaque pour nous prendre de l’argent sur le compte dont on leur aura donné le numéro??
J’arrive pas à me faire à l’idée que ce genre de choses puisse arriver et surtout qu’il n’y ai aucune autorité compétente pour les arréter!!
Et puis, OU ONT-ILS EU MON ADRESSE?????????

Heureusement qu’il existe encore une minorité de personnes consciencieuses qui veulent prévenir les autres de ce genre d’abus.
Merci.

For those who read French as badly as I do. Here is a kind of translation (courtsey of google.com/translate)

Hello! I am of the Guadeloupe and I already received this letter 3 times at least. The last in date were (according to them) the last that it enveraient me since the deadline is on April 26, 2007. It is really disgusting what these people do: they imaginenet not the evil which they can make around them. There are certainly people who need really this money and they they play about it. In more one will say really an official document with heading and all, logo, plug and ESPECIALLY of the names and a signature with the hand. (or then they have very good programs to make that the tricks are in relief!!) But this ki intrigues me in the history it is the goal of this kind of organization, in loccurence the loteria primitiva: it is what in fact? does one swindle to take money to us on the account which one will have given them the number?? I am not able to make me with the idea that this kind of things can arrive and especially that it have there no proper authority for the arréter!! And then, OR did they HAVE MY ADDRESS????????? Fortunately that there is still a minority of conscientious people who want to prevent the others of this kind of abuse. Thank you.

// Nikke

Well, it’s still going around. I received a letter today. Checked it out on the web when they asked for my bank details with a copy of my passport. The other giveaway was the fact that half of us could have probably designed the letterhead better than they did.

Hi, my partner received this certificate too! I went on the internet and thanks to people like you who set up sites about these crooks offering hope to people of all walks of life, I want to thank you. I did not think it could be real because usually one knows when one enters a lottery! BUT, like many of the people above have commented, that we all live the dream and hope one day our lives could change by a lovely windfall! oh well, such is life – will wait for the next one as there are guaranteed to be more on the way.

I got a letter through today, and it all looked legit, so i faxed off a copy of my passport and asked for a transfer, putting in my account no and sort code. Can they get anything from my account now that i have already sent something off?

Oh yes I received one too today! A real hardcopy in an envelope!
All interesting-looking with phoney names and phone-numbers and a personal signature, stamp and hand-written date. Exactly same message, just a little different. NOrmally I discard this sort of stuff immediately but this one had a regular post stamp and was posted by mailbox in Malaga!
But I know nobody (from Spain) who would just send me this amount of money just for nothing. Never trust it!
BUt it’s the best spam I’ve seen.

Great, isn’t it Tina? Thanks for sharing.

Actually, these kinds of letters started out as hand written messages. And they probably get a much higher lead return that way even though sending out hardcopy enveloped letters is more expencive for the scammers.

ya I also got the same mail from Loteria Primitiva…and I rejected it directly coz I know that it’s not gonna happen that I won any lottery…coz I hate lottery and I never played nor join any of them…nt a single time in my whole life!
but then by my curiosity..I just double check it in the net hoping to find some police blutter or such kind…then I found this”Nikkes Index”. great job nickke.
I hate those scam people.

Hello! My name is Celeste and I am from Argentina. First of all, I’m sorry for my english but I think that it is important if I talk about my experience. My mother has received a letter from Spain which said that she had won a lot of money because off a Lottery Prize. I didn´t believe what that letter says because anyone gives you money for nothing (we didn´t send a letter or anything). We don´t know how they get our address.
There were a name and a telephone number in the letter so we called. We were confused because it was from Spain but the letter was in English and the man who answered our call talked in english too. When we asked him about the way how they had gotten our address, he answered me that he wasn’t autorized to give me that information…. I had to fill a form with different things including the number of a bank account.
Thanks for that page because if I hadn´t found it, i would sent the form

I received a letter from international lotto commission.
What mean ?It is a fake propaganda? But I received it 2 times(2005 and 2007)
agent: PABLO GARCIA (ESTRELLA SEGUROS S.A Company Tel:011 34 653 252 609
and fax: 011 34 911 010 569
Reference number : MXAT/0999/171ESP
BATCH No: 12115-04/EU

Tank you for your letter

Yes it’s fake. The letter is sent by thieves that want you to believe that you are suddenly rich, and then they want you to pay just a little of your new riches in advance.
The catch is, you will never see any money.

Oh dear,
I received the same letter which every one got, Then phone me next day and asking to pay 1980 pound immediately for banking transaction cost. They given me the detail to be paid.
Name of the person …….Mr. JONATHAN SHERIF
ADDRESS …………………GRANVIA 44
MADRIO SPAIN
BANK NAME ………………CAJACAMARIAS
A/C NO…………………….ES7820650221714100010265
S.CODE……………………CECAESMM 065.

Once I paid the money then only they can release my winning amount to my bank. I went through the google search and find out this site and i got enough informations about the silent cheat.
So this is what happened with me. Thanks for everybody’s comment to prevent me to jump their trap. I wish this all causing people go behind the bars the whole life.

If only i had searched the web yesterday!!!
Well fortunately i have not sent them my bank details.
I received the very same letter yesterday, at first i thought it was too good to be true. I thought yeah right this is a scam. But because the form attached also gave the option of a certified cheque, i thought it might be true.
So unfortunately this morning i faxed them the form a photo copy of my photo card drivers liceence. my only worry is can they use this for any other scams.
I don’t believe i fell for this!
Thank goodness for this site.

Nice…. the letter with the banks and personal details was sent…..
now what?
when they called this morning asking for 1.200£ i got suspicious and i searched the net and i found this. thank you very much for this page!

I got a letter on friday telling me i had won the lottery (1.5m Euro’s) but how do they get your details? im only 17 have no credit card dont register on any sites it is realy odd 90% of me knew it was a scam 10% of me whated to try it out and was hoping it was real thies things are just to good to be true you font get anything for free, lol.

I would just like to thank you for your web site as I also recieved this letter in the mail today. All the wording is similar to yours only the ref. and batch numbers differ. This is really upsetting as life already throws enough daily challenges your way, now for something like this to happen is just so darn wrong. They get you in this amazing spirit that makes you feel that finally something has gone your way only to discover it is just another evil persons out there to get from you what they can, like the goverment is not enough to be aware of! I would have probably gone along with this scam had I not had the internet. Wonder how many out there without this technology have walked into this sad and inhumane scam. Hope these idiots rot in hell. Thanking you again for your consideration in setting up this website.

I just received a ”la Primitiva Lotto commission” letter and I was at first really happy! the truth is that I often go to Spain as I am a Spanish Teacher, but I never played the Lotto. I was quite concerned however because it was too good to be true. I am actually in financial problems and that looks like ”somebody had listen to my prayers”. However, I decided to check in the Internet first because they ask for bank details or an ID. I am quite please (and desilusioned at the same time!) that I was wise this time. thank you for confirming my fears!
Annie

Thanks for you nice words Annie. I’m really glad that I could be of some assistance.

Never been a victim of a scam…But today I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM SPAIN. Yes the real one with official stamps, signed….DR. MARTIN GONZALEZ IS MY AGENT to contact if I want to get my seven hundred and fifty thousand euros. I BELIEVED tHAT I really won because everything seems genuine. I decided to do some research and I am so glad that I did. Despite the fact that I am still very disappointed I will still play the lottery and you know (fingers crossed) I might well be a WINNER…… And remember NEVER EVER give your bank details, ID….. if you are suspicious.THANKS FOR SETTING UP THIS SITE…….

I was still wondering either this is a real thing or juz a fack fool that would make people thought that it might make people rich or instad making u rich from stealing other people bank account. I don’t think that this is the end n im quite positive to report this to the police which i feel this is the best decision to make before it might get worse, because according to the Law it is the serious offence under the breach of trush and cheating under the Law. I am relieve coz i hv found tis nikke page to RELISE ME……………………

Received a letter on the 26th April 2007 from La Primitiva Lottery signed Jose Miguel Rodriguez Promotions Director and contact person was Mario Sanchez saying we had won €615,810,00 thought my luck was in my husband said from the start this sounds to good to be true, but we thought you never know that someone might be looking down on us, so to be on the safe side as they wanted personal details also on us receiving the money thay wanted a payment of 10%, well had a look on the internet ad of course it was a SCAM, thank you for so much for setting up this site. I just feel so sorry for people that might not have access to the internet and have sent there details.

Had one too, unfortunatley older or less wise people will respond
unless you personally buy a ticket you have not won a thing anywhere
in the world.

I bought a el grando lotto ticket in 2004, (didnt win) then last week I got a letter from El Gordo I’d won 15,155 euros yippee,Thinking it was something to do with ticket I had bought in 2004 , faxed the form and waited for the cheque, then today I got a phone call from Antonio Gonzalez (with indian accent) telling me to send £1465 for insurance and bank charges, told him that I am a pensioner and dont have 1465pence so he slammed the phone down , just another scam and another fool to believe it

I have reported this scam to watchdog consumers services, if they put it on their web site and maybe mention it on the tv show, more people will know that its a scam

Thanks for the website!!!!!
I thought I am the lucky winner as well…………..to good to be true!!!!!!!!

Can I upload the letter in this website?

Joyce, what a good move! That’s the thing to do. Spread the word more and more, and sooner or later at least one international police organisation will have to start dealing with this.

Chihon, please do. If it’s a new one, I will make a new page out of it. If it already exists on the site, it’s a good thing that we can show people that come searching, that a lot of people received identical, or almost identical emails.

WELL I GOT THE SAME BUT NOT IN MAIL BY E-MAIL AND I WAS SO HAPPY I THOUGHT IT WAS TRUE .I DECIDED TO LOOK ON THE ENTERNET FOR THIS LOTTERY AND I FOUND THIS WEBSITE THENK YOU CAUSE IT HELPED ALOT

It seems they operate now in Switzerland. I got a mail from this criminal organization yesterday. The adress from this criminal organization: Casa de la Primitiva C/Perez sin Numero, C/P 28019 Madrid-Espania and Seguridad agencias y Representantivo Calle Juan cruzeria sin numero 22009 Madrid Espana Tel: 0034 648-771-173 Fax:0034 652 610 860 Attention to Don Paulo Eduardo e-mail adress: estrelliasegu@madrid.com or estrelliaagent@k.ro

Hi Nikke and everybody

I got the same similar letter today. It is indeed very clever, the letter came from Spain (Malaga), it looks very official, I know there is an El Gordo lottery in Spain, it mentions the official spanish betting name, an official stamp and signature, a real insurance company (in my case Seguros Bilbao).

However, a few things just could not possibly make sense, first of all I did not buy a ticket for the lottery!! Nobody gives anything away for nothing.

Secondly how could they have got my address? I have now changed all my email accounts and other web services to exclude such details, and I would urge anyone to do the same.

Thirdly, it was in English, even though it was from Spain and I’m portuguese. And you know that if someone is asking for your bank details you are asking for trouble.

I went on the internet straight away, searched the spanish el gordo lottery, they have several lotteries, checked the winning lucky numbers for 2007 and none of them matched. I then matched the whole name, i.e. ”El Gordo de la Primitiva Lottery International Programme” and presto here appears this website and I had the confirmation of the scam.

What to do now really, is the question. As I said I have changed my details on the internet, and I might look to find the BBC’s watchdog website. I was thinking that maybe I would get in touch with the spanish ”loterias y apuestas del estado” byemail, namely the bilbao or malaga’s delegations, but after having read your site the perpetrators might not even be in Spain, it sounds like it is a very intricate web of deceipt.

I just hope that any further people affected have the fortune of searching the web and finiing this website.

Paulo

Hi guys… I received a letter too…. I knew that was fake… nothing is free and easy in this world as lotteria primitiva wants us to believe. I’m wondering…… is this a lucrative business for these people? how do they make money? ot it is just a joke? just people that hasn’t got anything to do and want to spend time somehow?

I will be great if someone has got some explanation about these letter…

best regards

thanks to Joyce now I know….. they ask you for money after a while… I see…. hope that none is going to believe these fake letters.

Recieved the lottery letter today along with an email offer of 150kg of gold dust for $12,000 that’s 2 scams in a day they obviously have a successful hit rate. These scams go back 20+ years. Threats of violence and in the case of Nigeria murders have been known to have been comitted. Give them an invitation and they will come knocking in some cases. Serious stuff>

dear sir
it is reauy apitty .i found no vent through i can ger my courier .
the banks here in algeria made no regulatoin.the told me thar
they culd not proceed in the way to wanted it until they recieve
the courier.so please send it and you will have every thing
right and delivered.
mail.goutti84@yahoo.fr
DERROUICHE MENOUER
street yakhlef kouider safsaf benbadis 223001
wilaya of sidi balabes
ALGERIE

badr bank
groupe regionale d exploitatoin
agence locale de banbadis.765
code benque 0003
code guichet 00765
swift badr dzal
765 053356 01201 0.33 derrouiche menouer

mail goutti84@yahoo.fr neme: derrouiche menouer.

Please sir,
I want to ask you about the easiest way to get my winning chek.
In my county ( Algerian banks) a servery slow to do this kind of tings.
I wonder if you may eb me by sending messages or e mails to the britic embassy in Algeria to allow me get a visa to te U.K indprder to fulfil my file there
So deare sir, Ibeg you to do the necessary witme and I’m very thankfut.
Your

THANK.j’ have wanted the cheqoue by courier. by the this been able bounque my demonde les.v.p.: to send it by courier:

DERROUICHE MENOUER
street yakhlef kouider safsaf benbadis 223001
wilaya of sidi balabes
ALGERIE

badr bank
groupe regionale d exploitatoin
agence locale de banbadis.765
code benque 0003
code guichet 00765
swift badr dzal
765 053356 01201 0.33 derrouiche menouer

yeah, i received the same form telling similar stuff, the difference were only money amounts and names of so called agents..
thanks for revealing bullshit

I recently had a postal letter telling me I’d won heapsa money (yeah right) on the release of the ‘LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME’ you don’t get something for nothing right?! And as I’ve never even been to Spain (sad but true) I knew straight off it was a scam….but I’d really like to know how they got hold of my home addy…I don’t really send off for stuff so it’s quite confusing…hmmm..

Hi Nikke.
Thank you for this site. It is the 10.5.07 and today I have received the same type of letter as all these people. I have heard of this type of letter before in this country and was very wary of it. I think the best thing people can do is to let the media know of this scam and therefore perhaps many more people wouldn’t be taken in by them.
Thank you all for your comments it does help.

Believe it or not they have hit Ireland now too. These Nigerian scams sure seem to get around! Our letter was identical in detail to Caren in the UK (April 26th) above. Deep down we knew it was too good to be true but wanted to check it out online anyway and were pleased to find your site with all this information. Pity though as it would have been nice to be able to afford that little ”Spanish” place in the sun! Mind you, we’ll be playing the numbers provided by these kind people in the REAL lotto this weekend – you never know, they may have just supplied us with the winning numbers!

Hi everyone.

09.05.07 – I received a letter very similar from the ‘La Primitiva’ and was very suspect on opening hence checking on tinternet straight away. Just as i thought, same old story and pretty obviously a scam really. For a start, who would send you confirmation of a lottery win (several hundred thousand Euros) on a game you have never played? Who would send it on shite paper which has been photocopied millions of times? A vile scum bag looking to play on innocent victims that’s who. Do not go any further with this letter, you’re bound to regret it!!!

Hopefully someone will catch up with these pricks soon.

For the record the current disguise is ‘Jose Miguel Rodriguez’ prize amount € 615,810.00 posted from Correos, Malaga..

Hello
My name is Rene , I’m Dutch but currently living in Germany.
We received a simular letter today (11th may-2007) from La Primitiva Lottery Award stating that we have won Euro 415.410=.
Since we play a lot of lottery we thought it could be true. We made the phone call to Spain to ask for some clarification. Like all the others we got the same direction fax the form and the money will be tranferred. This is all to good to be true. The stamp from spain and the contact number made us a believer of our luck. Thanks to the internet we are back on our feet again and will keep on working for our money.
Reading all your stories helps a lot thank you all and you Nikke

I have received the same letter as everybody here inthis web! I did all the procedures but did not send my bank accounts !!! Tomorrow thet are going to call me and I will let you all know about this rubbish group and what they are doing!!!!! I am going to continune the process to see what happens and they have to send me the biggggggggg moneyyyyyyy on a cheque (as they have mentioned on their approval letter!!!)

Will seeeeeeee !!!!! Ofcourse they will not call me again after tomorrowwwwwwww!!!

Thank you for everything coz I was thinking that whole my life has been changed!!!

Thanks a lot
Sara

i have got the same letter, i have to say i half belive it because i know that around christmas time i did enter a few lotteries and now i do not know if its a scam or not because of that!

Dear Sir or Madam:

I am in receipt of a letter dated April 26, stating I have won a lot of money. Can you tell me if I really won or if it is a scam of some sort?

Please let me know about this matter as soon as you are able.

Thank you for your attention to the above.

Sincerely,
Elizabeth Vasquez

well how many people did recive this award, is it realy fake?????

nice try hope this dont happend to my mon, she will for sure try this.

thanks for the website really helpfull

diego

MY HUSBAND HAS JUST RECEIVED ONE OF THESE LETTERS.WE WERE SO UNIMPRESSED BY THE BIG WIN THAT HE WENT FOR A LITTLE SLEEP AND I COOKED THE DINNER.WHERE DID THEY GET OUR ADDRESS? WE HAVE TWO POSSIBLE ADDRESSES FOR OUR HOME AND THE ONE USED IS NOT THE ONE WE USE EVERYDAY.IN THE SIX YEARS WE HAVE LIVED HERE I HAVE NEVER EVER USED THIS ADDRESS. IS THERE ANY USE GIVING THIS LETTER TO OUR LOCAL GARDA OR TO THE SPANISH EMBASSY? IF NOT I’M GOING TO FRAME IT AND IMPRESS MY FRIENDS. YOUR SITE MAKES GREAT READING . THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A FORUM TO ALERT OTHERS TO THIS FRAUD. ANGELA (IN IRELAND) P.S. IM E 615,810.00 POORER NOW THAN I WAS A FEW HOURS AGO. SO SAD

Heads up! This is not isolated to e-mails! I just opened a very similar document claiming I have won nine hundred and eighty five thousand nine hundred and fifty Euros that arrived the old fashioned way, my mail man. I did notice the address was Madrid, Spain, I was wondering if anyone else may have stayed in Mexico at a hotel owned by the Spanish. I think this could be the connection, they are usually all inclusive resorts. Just a thought.

Dear All!
My grandmom have recieved the same letter today, and she seems to be the happiest person on earth. I too was happy to see her happy but before proceeding with the procedure I thought of checking the internet to confirm its authenticity, I am glad I found this website and did not forward my bank details to them. However, I just can’t decide how to let my grandmom know of this . This would be just so upsetting for her to know.

Now the most important part:

Many of you might be thinking as to how they get your address and name

In my case, I can say for sure that it is basically the ”Telephone directory” that’s working for them. They take out any name along with its addess and no. and send in the letter on the same. I am sure this is the only way they can have your address and name. So stop getting worried about it.

I WON

Yeah right, as above I received a letter and wondered why my insurance company had started doing lotteries. Imagine my horror when I found out that Estrella Seguros did not in fact have any knowledge of any lottery winnings. So they have contacted thier Spanish based office (the head office) and are going to claim my winnings for me. How nice of them. only the person claiming the prize isnt going to be me (shock horror). Apparently I have received a call from a family member as I am (gasp) in Spain on holiday and advised that I have won 815,810.00 euros. Apparently I have the 2500 euros on me to claim the prize and can give it to them.
Of course the Estrella Seguros Insurance company investigation branch are going to end up very busy. This letter even has their logo and they are P*@@%D

My niece recieved this letter yesterday. She is 4 years old!!! How the hell would this company manage to get her details?

Sadly my sister (her mum) thought it may be a genuine letter but luckily decided to check with me before sending on her details.

But i am thinking it might be funny to contact them with the details of a 4 year old just to see what sort of reply they give.

Hi all!
I’m the winner today!!! I called the office half an hour ago and they confirmed my prize. What a relief that I’ve found that web site before I tell my all family how lucky I am.

Ilona, could you tell us a bit more about the call.
What did they want from you now?

Hi

my wife revieced a letter from loteria primitiva yesterday, and we won 297.486,22 € we live in copenhagen, the adresse detail they have sent it to was in danish.
I call the agent Don Carlos valentino , and he asked for the reference number and sercurity number then he sayed congratulation you have won 397.486,22 € fax me your details and call me afterwords.

Hi Ib,

If you decide to fax them your details, make sure you don’t send anything that might be used to withdraw money from your bank account. Even though Danish bank security is good, you don’t want anybody to have details about you that can be used in a more deliberate scam than most of these lottery scams are.

Hey everyone, I got letter from La Primitiva lotery about my win, But I was exactly playing that lottery on the internet, and the lucky numbers witch are in the letter are exactly my…………and another think, I sent them my accout information and my fotocopy of my passport by fax, then I call to number (to spain) witch was in my letter and my agent said my that my win will by in my account in one week………..nobody asked my about paing anything to them……..so what do you think abou it ? because now, how I reed this page I realy dont now what I have to think about it……

Scooby,

I have some follow-up questions for you.

First of all. Where and how did you play it online?
It would be very easy for a scammer to set up a fake site where gullable players would leave their contact addresses and (surprise, surprise) win a lot of money.

Keep talking to them if you want, and then report back when they want the first commission/tax/fee in advance.

I have received a similar letter, after sending the requested detals, Mr Martin Perez Of Andalucia Seguros Int. S.A of Tel No + 34 655629 095 confirmed that i had won the lottery and he insisted on me forwading him Euros 1752 by bank transfer to an individual person account as per given details. He is still calling me to inquire if i have forwarded the funds.

I wonder why these people are still in the market after all these scam letters have been caught.

Friends be careful!!!! Hope this comes to an end soon.

well thanx you helped seal our decision to ignore this letter which is frightfully alike the ones on this website. cheers to you all.

I also received one of these letters in the post. I immediately new it was a scam and my susipicions were correct. Interestingly the *real* Groupama Security have this notice on their website:
”We have been notified of a series of letters purporting to relate to ‘the Spanish Lottery’ and allegedly involving ‘Groupama Seguros’, the Spanish subsidiary of Groupama.
Please note that these are not genuine letters and anyone receiving such correspondence should not respond or provide the personal details requested.
We take these letters very seriously and are in course of a detailed investigation to identify the senders. If such a letter is received, please inform us immediately via customer.service@groupama.co.uk and send the original letter to:
Stephen Teeling
Technical Claims Controller
1 Port Way
Port Solent
Portsmouth
Hampshire
PO6 4TY”
http://www.groupama.co.uk/latestnews/news/060421_spain.asp
Please don’t fall for this – it’s a scam.

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Thanks for that link Diplo, I’ll add it up in the main article.

We received one, as well, in Germany. I was surprised to see one come through the old fashioned post mail, but I suppose those who look at fraudulent scams will attempt the unusual. It claims we won ”785,810.00″ Euros. I’m about to go and quit my job! Seriously, the letter looks far from professional, as the seals in the upper corners are bad copies and the bar code on the second page lacks realism. I will give the initiators of this one item of credit: their English is improving.

dear friends,
i also received letter from El Gordo lottery in Spain that ive benn selected as a random email selection and i’ll be paid lakhs of euros,and one attached form is there with official logo ,contact no etc,so i gave them my account no,name,and swift code,now i fear if can they withdraw money from my account and what to do?pl advice me.

i received a letter yesterday (in the post) from LA PRIMITVIA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME. at first i thought it was too good to be true, then i got a little curious and decided to investigate the logos on the letter head, ‘Loterias y Apuestas del Estado’. i typed them in a the website opened up, which was official, i checked the lottery numbers and they didnt match. i then decided to phone the number and a man answered the phone with an african accent (nigerian?) and he said i should phone them as soon as i fax my details over.
i searched the internet agin and typed in LA PRIMITVIA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME into the search engine and this site came up and other sites saying SCAM SCAM! which comfirmed my suspcious!

thanks this site saved me from sending my details

ps my contacts name was Dr Riko David

Well enough said, enough heard. I received the exact copy of this letter as everyone else this morning. They must have a lot of money to give away considering the amount of promises they’ve made in the past. I was just about to fill and return the form but decided to look up on the net for this so called “LA Primitiva Promotion Program”. To my amazement there isn’t anything like it; it’s all a set up. I’m absolutely gutted. The good news is, in my head I was living in riches for a couple of hours but switched back to my broke self again. Another thing I noticed about these letters is that they seem to have a new Vice President every single day since all the names are different. People be cautious, like everyone else IT IS A SCAM.

This is really disgusting. I got this same letter today 24th of May, 2007. First I wondered how they got my address then I remembered that I have my name and address in the BT catalogue. They may have gotten it there. What surprised me most was that I have bever played lottery in my whole life neither had I been to spain. The letter sent was looking so genuine, stamped, a picture of two men giving a woman a cheque at the top right hand corner, a form for me to fill etc… but then I was wondering why my name was not on the letter it self…only on the envelope. I just reasoned that they would have sent this to a thousand and one persons. My God. It will fool a whole lot of people. I was asked to contact Mr Pedro Diego, foreign operation Manager of Grupo Bilbao Security, Spain. They had their telephone number and fax numbers in the letter.
I just thought I should go do a search on the internet and then I stumbled to this website. I must really thank you for putting up this site. I actually thought I will give them a call but was not ready to pay a dime if it comes to them asking me to pay some monies into some accounts.
The person who came out with this idea must be really sick… really really Sick.

I have been reading the comments with interest as I received a letter this morning. It’s along the same lines as the rest but they seem to change the security company -mine is Bilbao seguras SL and the contact is Dr Paul David. I too wondered how they had targeted me until I read on a website that they seem to be targeting immigrants or people with ”foreign” sounding names not indigenous to the country they are living in. This would tie in with me as my name is Polish although I was born in Scotland. I also use my own name although I am married and my husband did not receive a letter-presumably because his name sounds ”normal”. I would still like to know how the scamsters get hold of the information in the first place but in the meantime like everyone else I urge everyone to ignore all such letters.

Hi guys, I’m 20 and a student and can you imagine how shocked i was reading that I’d ”supposedly” won Six Hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and ten euros.WOW that meant i wouldnt have to work over summer to go on hols!!!! anyways ive just come online to google it and thankgod i found this website!!!!! how the hell do they have my address? SHame i didnt win but do i send it off to that address up top and it get sorted?

I too received the same letter thru an ordinary mail with perfect Spanish stamp on the envelope which encloses a lettter saying Attention: Winner and a form to fill all the personal detalils including bank details.

I never ever played lottery in my life and in fact if get money like this which is not part of my hard work earnings, I don’t know how to spend that. At the moment I received the letter I raised a lot questions in myself exactly the same as I find in this blog. So finally, I want to say one thing to the fuck-in idiots stop sending this sort of stupid mail/email and still even doesn’t feel the non-sense I advise them to go thru this blog.

I’ve received letter this morning too…… my contact person is Fred Marino, both contact numbers are mobiles and in addition all ticket, serial and winning numbers match the numbers from the mail from the top of this page (january 2005 ))))…………

Got the letter this morning , La primitiva promotions programme, won 615,810 euros.Contact person is Mario Sanchez, tel 0034 692 318 574, fax 0034 911 817 413, signed by Jose Miguel Rodriguez-promotions director. Agent is Grupo Bilbao Security Company (Securigos Bilbao). Asking for bank details, passport copies, next of kin’s details. says I have to pay 10% of my winnings to Bilbao Securigos as they bought this ticket in my name. I DIDN’T ask them to buy any tickets for me, never been to Spain, but WORRIED about my address being known to CROOKS! Put The letter in the bin or better send it to Watchdog, the one in Hampshire. Everyone, please keep sending your comments and we might bust this scam one day!

i too recieved the letter sayin i had one 615,810.00 euros (exactly the same cash prize as emily) i am a student as well so the thought of having that money was exciting. luckily i have been watching the (REAL HUSTLE). you never win anything you dont know youve entered, an obvious scam!! the actual text in the letter was beleivable however the shitty copy and paste job done to the logos gave it away. thankyou lindquist.com for clearing the air

i apologise for my spelling im just f***ed off

well just got one this morning and i tried to look it up on any web site scams and i have not found it. euro sweepstake lottery company sa. his name is Mario Ortiz. i called him up and he said why am i worried and not to worry just to send him the papers back. the papers do not say to pay him money but it says that i will have 10% off my winnings. attached,is a processing form,fill it out and return it to DAILY CARE SECURITY COMPANY S.A for processing and remittance of your winning fund. if someon]e got the same thing as i did write back!!

thanks again!

is there some real one’s

Stephano,

Just as in the off-line reality, there are lots of real lotteries, but they all share the one catch, that you need to purchase a lottery ticket in order to win.

Received a letter today in the post, however, knew it would be to good to be true so then I checked the internet, thanks for the information, oh well dreams will have to stay on hold ha!

I just recieved a letter my postal service stating almost the exact same things as you all have said. I am certainly confused how they got my info, because my name is not in any phone directory and they have my married name on the documents. I have traveled alot and played many lotteries. I LIVE inthe UNITED STATES so this is spreading even quicker than any of us realize. I almost belived it. FAT CHANCE they will hear from me. The letters were well written and very offical in text and print. Biggest problem I found is that most lotteries that people win those large amounts of money are not just done with minimal infoand banking transfer. There is alot more in the process of identifying the winner and the authinticity. So be very aware. Here is some of the names and info used in the letter I recieved. The contact numbers are 011 34 699 616 466, fax 011 034 911 412 736. The contact person was Fred Marino, Foreign Service Manager of LA ESTRELLA DE SEGUROS S. A. The email address given was laestrella@consultant.com The other type of address given on the document was Pasaje Serrano N21,28008 Madrid Spain
Italy office:Via Piantoni no.9,Brescia Italy

It was also signed and stamped by one Antonio Garcia, Vice President
THE LETTER HAD NO RETURN ADDRESS ON THE ENVELOPE!!

WORD TO THE WISE LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP!!! THESE PEOPLE WILL MOST LIKELY NEVER GET CAUGHT AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ROB INOCENT PEOPLE AS LONG AS THERE ARE GULABLE PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS WORLD!! THEY ALSO WILL NOT REGRET THE HEARTACHE AND PAIN THEY BRING UPON OTHERS, FOR THAT MATTER THEY JUST DONT CARE!!!!

I just got a letter today as well, seems they’re now targetting people in Ireland, seeing as they’ve failed everywhere else!! Mine was also LOTERIAS Y APUESTAS DEL ESTADO & LA PRIMITIVA, signed by JOSE MIGUEL RODRIGUEZ and again to give 10% to them. Yeah right!! So tell me when was I in spain that I bought a ticket!!
I am sending to the Fraud Squad here in Ireland so they can follow up on it.
Great website, without it alot would be scammed

I feel aggrieved. i only won €615810 and I have to contact Mr Anonio Sanchez. How come you got more than me. This world is so unfair. Sounds like an attempt at identification theft. By the way my son has just pointed out that the watermark is a fake also. It is injet printed. Now I know I really got jipped.
Good website. Keep up the good work.

I only won same as you Francis, 615810 euros. Pretty hacked off it was not more. Jose Miguel is asking for my passport number or a copy of my driving license. It is an attempt at identity theft, and a very poor attempt at that.

Great Site. Some great Comments

David, Scotland

Francis and David. Thanks for you comments.
I think the setup is to attempt an ID theft if possible, but otherwise to just try to gain some level of authority before starting to ask for fees, taxes and commissions.

I have just received a letter from Spain (with a genuine Spanish stamp on it), telling me that I won 785,510.00 euros out of 8,640,610.00 euros in this so-called lottery, which I knew I didn’t enter at all (I don’t play any lottery). The wording seems to be convincing, it attached a copy of a Payment Processing Form asking for personal info and bank detail. The contact on my letter is Frank Rogers on tel: 0034 680 189 185, fax: 0034 685 561 143, and the Managing Director is Mariano Xavier. But from the quality of the paper, the shitty printed loco and watermark on it gave the whole game away! I knew this is a scam right away, but just out of curiosity, I check it out online and find this site with people who have encountered exactly the same thing as I have.

The people who are behind this are VERY VERY SICK IN THEIR MINDS, and I hope they will be caught and locked behind bar for life very soon!!!

I guess I knew it was a scam as soon as I opened the letter but there’s always a glimmer of hope? So I logged on and searched and this came up. Oh well. Next time, eh? Makes me laugh how all the ‘claims agents’ have the most comedy ridiculously cliche Spanish names. My guy was called Don Pedro Perez. Thanks Nikke…

well, i guess i can only add to what you guys already said.
i also received a letter from spain with a spanish stamp from loterial y apuestas del stado which claimed that i won eur 615.810.00 in the euromillions super loterie d’espana signed by a raul gomez. i was supposed to call a don jose pablo from mejor global seguros s.a. tel 0034 605 389 362 fax 0034 911 814 140.
i did even call and the guy told me that i did have won the $$$, so i faxed the thing, fortunately w/o my bank acct. information. too stupid i did not find this website earlier, and i am going to report the entire thing with the police tomorrow.
i also found a website which says that they have already been arrested.
https://www.european-lotteries.org/data/info_127/ELGORDO_fraud.pdf
i did not disclose any information about myself which is not anyway available on the internet, so i hope i am fine…

Hi to all

Yes, luckily just feeling happy for a little while. So the disappointment was not so intense. Thank you for this site. I received my letter from International promotions. I am from South Africa. Hope these hooligans get caught.

Like many others just recieved a letter saying that I have won 615,810 euros.

I go to Spain regularly and speak reasonable spanish. I phoned the number given and spoke in Spanish but was answered in English. Every time I spoke in Spanish i was anwerd in English. He appeaed not to speak Spanish. This one was called Don Pablo Chavez..

In spain you would not use the title Don in a letter it would be Senor. Very dodgy just as well I am suspicious. Thanks for this site lad I checked it out

I have received a letter which had a genuine spanish stamp on it. It’d said I’d won the lottery along with 15 other international winners. Yeah right…it certainly only took 20 seconds to realise it was nothing but a scam. The print was awful. They copied the logo off a genuine spanish logo by the looks of things. How can they possibly believe anyone is going to go along and quite happily give their details to them? Duh? Anyway, I’ve been informed FROM THE DESK OF THE VICE PRESIDENT yeah…how convincing, I’d won GBP 715,810.00 in cash! And obviously congratulating me…well, for their information I still went into work!

It also suggests that due to false practices (hahahaha) they ask that we keep the award to ourselves and strictly from public notice until the claim has been processed and money remitted as part of their security protocol to avoid double claiming or unwarranted abuse of the program by unscrupulous individuals (hahaha).

The claims agent is Emmanelao Gomez who happens to be the foreign service manager of ESTRELLA SEGUROS S.A. On Tel: 00 34 692 511 442 or Fax: 00 34 911 311. If I don’t claim before the 25th June 2007 the winnings will be returned to the MINISTERIO DE ECONOMIA Y HACIENDA as unclaimed fund. They would like to inform me 10% of the winnings belongs to ESTRELLA SEGUROS. as part of their commission for acting on my behalf! As if, I haven’t even played the lottery in Spain, let alone Madrid! There is a name with signature going straight through it, and the name printed is Jose Miguel Rodriguez, Promotion Director. There’s also a naff bar code. The address this letter came from is supposedly Apartadode Correos 129, 28085, Madrid, Spain.

I recieved a similar letter yesterday fro El Gordo Spanish Sweepstake. All the information was the same as the other subscribers to this site however my claims agent was a Pablo Garcia ph 0034 635-915-163. I contacted Mr ”Palo Garcia” and got a very dodgey response which I thought was odd since I was one of their ”big winners” in their lottery! Hell of a nice thought to be gifted loads of money, but reality is these scammers play the numbers game and rely on the minority falling victim to their prey.

I recieved the same letter as the others for my boss who was away at the time so I thought I would surprise him with these winnings and If I did all the work maybe we could split the winnings. So I had copy of his passport and faxed it with the information causiously asking for a cheque(thank God). I was so excited I started multiplying the euro into our dollar,taking out their 10% and dividing it in two for my boss and I, who by the way is a very generous man and i had no doubt he would have shared it sin ce he didn’t spend any money to win it, ha ha. Then something hit me —-go on the net and check it out – I felt like such a big fool when I got on your sight- how could I be so gulible. I am too ashamed to tell my boss. I hope they don’t use the copy of his passport for anything fraudulant. I would have wised up if they had asked for money though, I didn’t have it to give them. Take it from the winnings I would have said. Thanks for saving my ass though, your web sight is wonderful.

Hmmm…Yeah – how come some people got more than €615,810?!! I feel so left out of the big money now
So – if I had been offered €45,489,285 would I be more tempted?!
I mean really – There’s really no point in claiming if it’s that little! It’s got to be at least a mill surely!!

Anyway – I got this lovely letter today in Dublin from Spain with the Spanish stamp posted from Malaga. The usual things are on it – premium numbers for both phone call and fax number – and I SO MUST CLAIM by June 15th!

One thing I’m wondering – can I actually post the letter to someone if it would be of any help?
(…..and sure remember folks, your health is your wealth!)

its going to bite them on their back-side soon enough, thanks to technology.Size DOES matter after-all,’cause the more they try to scam,the less their power becomes! ironic? no,it’s karma!!

yeap.. they are still at it! I got my exciting news this morning with a Malaga postal stamp on it… I had won Euros 617,310.00 from the Euro Milliones (Ah! logo sucks!) Any way this is a notification from Fererro Guti and Mapfe Marketing S.L

What’s the old saying ”you have to be in it to win it” Well thanks for entering me in it without my klnowledge !!!!!

Anyway surfers beware of the Estrellas Seguros S.A. Euromilliones Loteria notification…

Thanks for the site .. really useful !

hi!i have just recieved an almost exact letter from ‘Elgordo Spanish National Lottery’ i have been contacted by agents who say i should go to Madrid and stay in a hotel for four days prior to the winnings presentation! Financially unable to do this it looks like i will not have my £68500 after all!!bummer!!!Looks like my dreams of a nice holiday, car and house are all but a fantasy, oh well!incidentally i did write to the agents who call themselves ‘Avangarde consultations’ and said that i hoped they would understand that i am disabled and financially disadvantaged and not discriminate and send my prize to me!unfortunately their response went along the lines of ‘sorry, nothing we can do’.i’m about to reply and ask them to donate my winnings to charity………………………………………………….

Thx guys
I got the same letter today, spanish stamp, with different contact details and I’m glad I foud this site.
I’m not disclosing any more details because this guys have my address and name and apparently know more about me than I know about them.

Apparently they hand out different ammounts/contact details to different preys so they know who got which letter with each details… or are there people getting letters exacly (i mean exacly) the same?

This means that if I was to say here which details I had gotten in my letter they would know (if they came to this site) that I had spotted and blown the horn about their scam.

It’s scary… someone should take this to the police. (I might well do).

Watch-out!!!!!!
I just received one of these letters today June 6, 2007 with familiar details
I have emailed a ”Dr. Carlos Blanco”. I just want to hear what lies he has to tell me.
Thanks to your website.

Hello.
Yes, i too have been a victime. I received a letter today, with the exact same details. This time it was 850,000 euros!!! After calling up the numbers stated on the letters, i could tell the people i spoke to WERE NOT SPANISH. They didnt even have a Spanish accent, instead, and accent more along the lines of Nigerian… This was enough to arouse suspicion. Their telephone manor was also not professional. After this, i decided to look in the net, and hopefully came accross this site, that confirmed this stupidity! Well done guys!
Great site, keep it up!

Hi, I recieved a Loteria Primitiva Lottery award notice today sent from Malaga, spanish stamp, like many others I have been awarded 615,810-I wish-and asked to contact my agent Sanchez Rodriguez, which seems to be a combination of other names people have mentioned. As soon as I read it I was suspicous, but thought I would check it out on the internet just in case, your site confirmed that unfortunatly for me it’s an obvious identity scam.
Thanks for the help, I’m thinking of displaying my letter around my village to warn others, especially those without the internet.
Thanks again-Tracy

i had got some thing like this

ScarLet Courier LTD
ADDRESS OF HEAD OFFICE:Link Place, BRIGHTON,
Sussex, BN1 7DX,ENGLAND
Tel: +44-703-190-9145

Attn: AMEET KUMAR YADAV ,

You are welcome to ScarLet Courier LTD Dispatch UNIT an affiliate of the IRISH ONLINE NATIONAL LOTTERY We are pleased to be at your service. Scarlet Courier is Regulated and Stipulated by the Finacial Service Authority(FSA).,the finacial institutions that Govern all Finacial activities in the United Kingdom.

This office has been Notified by the IRISH ONLINE NATIONAL LOTTERY of the amount won by you with their National lottery .This means that you have been officially cleared for payment by the Verifications Department at the headquarters of the IRISH ONLINE NATIONAL LOTTERY.

The original copy of your winning certificate, together with a covering document (Money Laundering protection and Letter of Affidavit for Claims) from the British government stating that the money was obtained legally through the IRISH ONLINE NATIONAL LOTTERY
will be sent to you as soon as you meet with any of the option selected.

You can now begin the final step of the claims process, which is the transferring of your cash prize to you. With regards to this, there are three options open to you, you are required to select the most convenient of the three.

The options, together with their associated conditions are presented below:

Courier of your winning cheque to you via any of this channel listed below:

DHL

Mailing: �150.00
Insurance: �250.00
Vat: �150.00
TOTAL: �550.00(24hrs)=$1,077.33 USD
UPS

Mailing: �100.00
Insurance: �250.00
Vat: �150.00
TOTAL: �500.00(2days)=$979.00 USD

FEDEX

Mailing: �150.00
Insurance: �200.00
Vat: �100.00
TOTAL: �450.00(3days)=$881.00 USD

Note:The charges cannot be Deducted from your winnings, and also the charges are to be handled by you.This is in accordance with section 13(1)(n) of the National Gambling Act as adopted in 1993 and amended on 3RD July 1996 by the constitutional assembly.This is to protect winners and to avoid misappropriation of funds and win Situaitions.

Please respond to this email by making a selection from the three options above. Also attach a scanned copy of either your driver’s licence, international passport (photo page) or any other legally identifying document.

Send your response to indicate your option within the next 24hrs,because you only have 14 working days to claim this cheque and after this period, your cash prize will be deemed to have been forfeited by you and will be reused in the drawings of the next edition of the lottery.

Once again, Congratulations

Your urgent reply will be most welcome

Treat with dispatch,
Mr. Sweet Smith
Tel:+44-703-190-9145
Registered in England No 929027.
Registered Office: Link Place, BRIGHTON,
Sussex, BN1 7DX,ENGLAND,
Regulated by the Financial Services Authority.
� 2007 ScarLet Courier LTD.

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I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IM SO HAPPY I WON THE LOTTERY.
BUT WHAT I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS A BIG FAKE. HOW CAN PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THIS. AT LEAST I DIDNT SEND IT IN WITH ALL MY INFO WHO KNOWS THEY MIGHT OF TOOK ALL MY MONEY FROM MY BANK. THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING SOMEBODY CAN DO TO STOP THIS PERSON FROM SENDING OUT THESE PHONEY LOTTERY PAPERS. ALL I KNOW IOS I HOPE NOBODY SENDS IT IN.
BEWARE ALL???

Dear all,

I regrettably only won 815,960 Euros!!! I was advised that I won the 3rd caterory lottery, but hope to do better next year!

I am obviously sarcastic here, but curious enough to google the various stated companies and names listed on this. I noticed that the format of the hasn’t changed in the past few years. Referring to the letter received yesterday, I understand that underlined text only seems to change to offer ”winners” a variance of their scam…

My agent is ”Dr Paul Mario”. I found it a bit odd that a doctor handles lottery claims rather than spending time in a hospital saving lives and helping people get better!

On the good side, I find this site that actually informs people of such scams, provide advise and refersto other sites for information purposes. This obviously takes time and money (ironic isn’t it!), but it is great to find that there are still people that do care for others.

There are ways to make the scammers lives a bit more difficult as suggested on othe rsimilar sites; if you have received such communication via e-mail, take a digital picture of false information and send it back to the originator. Large size files will quickly fill their sites and it will most definately slow them down, if not crash their system. For this, you should first set-up a disposable mailing address. The amount of responses will likely be overwhelming and you should avoid using your personal e-mail address.

Thank you for your efforts Nikke! I will be broadcasting such ”419 scam” with friends and family, after I tell them all I am now a millionnaire! (or getting closer).

Cheers

Stephane

I think the best thing to do with these letters is to send them onto the Spanish Lottery Legal Advice Service, i have checked there website and they request any of these scam letters to be sent onto them at:

If you receive fraudulent El Gordo material you can help the investigations of Loterías y Apuestas de Estado by sending a copy to the following address:

Loterías y Apuestas del Estado
Legal Advice Service
C/ Guzmán el Bueno nº 137
28003 Madrid
Spain

Damn them all….you know its a scam but if like me you are financially embarassed…all the time!!…you have that little glimmer of hope in the back of your head. I knew in my heart of hearts that it was a scam but still, at a glance it looks professional, closer inspection does however show as others have pointed out that it is not official paper, it is not embossed and has just been printed off a computer as opposed to a professional printing press. Please people do not send off your personal details or copies of your passports as identity theft is becoming a big thing, who knows, you could be arrested the next time you are at the airport for gun running or drug dealing.

I hav got this letter just 1 day ago and almost believ this stuppid scam.
I very greatfull for this site and call guys who knows website design to create
the same colored and ambisioused page in internet wich going to be crush this
f…. abusing joke !!!!

I to received an award notification from International Lottery Commission Loteria Primitiva telling me I had been approved a lump sum payments of 615,810 euros. I had to contact Don. Pedro Perez the foreign service manager of Estrella Seguros S.A. for the processing and remittance of my winning money and I owed 10% of my winnings as part of their commission for acting on my behalf. The letter is signed Mrs Antonio Garce Peral, needless to say the quality of a letter that had been copied numerous times and asking for bank details made me a bit uneasy so I checked it out and I’m glad I did. What about the people out there with no access to a computer and are hard up for cash and think to spend a little to receive a lot is not a bad gamble! Its a scam don’t do it return it to the address listed above and hopefully someone will put a stop to this before these dishonest people make more money out of hard working people like ourselves.

I’ve just came from the phone where I spoke to Dr Carlos Malolo, he told me I had won 615,810.00 euro. People have to know i’ts a scam when they open the letter. I kept the very helpful Dr C on the line for 30 minutes so at least he wasen’t able to scam anyone for that time. How about we all ring him and keep him on the line as long as possible. I will ring him again over the next few days using differant names and reference numbers. It was the best fun today scaming Dr C. I gave wrong name, reference and batch numbers so he doesen’t know who he’s dealing with. Have fun with this a–hole and waste his time.

Excellent idea Gerry. I think that is what the Spamalot project (not the musical) does.
http://www.lindqvist.com/en/robot-taking-on-spammers
They keep the scammers busy by sending automated mails to them asking about this and that. How they must hate it.

hola mi nombre es corisandra yo vivo en los estados unidos y resibi la misma carta de la que ablan
diciendo que abia ganado un premio de $766 3.52 million of dollars que me comunicara con MRalonzo carlos manager perpetual security & financial compania al tel 01134-680-902-058 fax 01134-911-877-119
se le pide alas autoridades que coresponda inbestigar este fraude

I represent a political prisoner in the USA, and he received a letter with notification, but he has no passport, bank, or ID other than state prison.
he wanted me to check into this; I don’t have a bank account and don’t want one.
Holla back anyone

HI This morning I received a letter from El Gordo la Primitiva bla bla bla!!!!! I thought it was real as i had been to spain and participated in a lottery but that was more than 5 years ago. Whilst looking at the letter and form i got suspicious as the stamp on it left no mark on the back of the letter (as real ones do!!!!!) Apart from that the logos, etc on the letter looked as if they were copied from somewhere and pasted on it but i phoned them just the same as 615,810 Euros seemed so good to me at the moment!!! The guy on the phone said i should send them the form with my bank account details a.s.a.p.

I’m so thankful for this website! When i read the letter on the website it was almost identical to mine. only the dates, names and money amounts were different. The winning numbers on my letter were exactly the same as the winning numbers on your letter !!! -14-26-27-40-42-48!!!!!! and that was dated 2004. (And i noticed that they recycle the same names over and over again. My agent was Luis Miguel and it was signed by Antonio Fernandez. whilst reading other people’s postings on this site i saw the same names but with different surnames or vice versa) Now i’m going to the spanish embassy here in Malta and see what can be done about this as it’s not fair to get people’s hopes up, rob them of their hard earned money and leave them with crushed dreams and no money!!!

Thanks again for the web site.:)

Agradezco al creador de esta pagina, ya que aunque sea podemos desahogarnos de aquellos que se aprovechan de los otros para enganhar y mas…Soy supuestamente otro ganador, en mi caso no fueron euros sino dolares, y empiezan los suenhos a surgir y que va, afortunadamente en mi pais algo que tenemos es malicia indigena y pues se han aprovechado tanto de nosotros que creo uno aprende. Espero que algun dia, un tal senhor Alex Johnson y un tal David Frank si esos son sus nombres sean aprendidos por todo este fraude, lastima que ya sea el 149, y me imagino que habran mas victimas de estos ”senhores”. Consejo, asi como nos enganharon busquemos la o las maneras de saber, de conocer si lo que nos esta llegando por el correo es cierto? o no.

Hello and thank you.
I have just recieved a letter addressed to my son, who is working in Greece, SAo I rang him and he told me to open it on his behalf It was telling him he had won 615,810.00 euro’s. with the next paragraph saying that I ahould be informed that 10% of his winnings belong to Bilbao Seguros S.L as they brought the ticket in his name?? Who are Bilbao Seguros, and why would they enter my son into a lottery in Spain without him knowing??? More to the point, where did they get his name and address from in the Uk?? thats what I find creepy.

Like some of you, I telephoned Alex Gomez, who is the Foreign Operations Manger for La Prmitiva on 00 34 695 403 999, and told them that my son had just finnished education and was a broke student on his first job and would be over the moon, to learn that he had won so much money. I said he had huge debts but would be thrilled to pay them back, and I would make sure he did as instructed. You know what, as he is working abroad and obviously has no money, they told me to phone them back in 10 minutes…. meanwhile, I have found this site, and I think I am going to e-mail watchdog, and scan the letter in, and let them know about thisto warn all those other people that have obviously been taken in… my son and I nearly were… Its dangerous, its obviously illegal and why is it still running?? Lets see if we can get them exsposed for what they are and put behind bars!!

i believe in this and i need a money (god came my dream told to take a lottrey)

tell me in simple way i win a lottery or not. please

Hey guys.Thanks for all the info.I too recieved the info and the letter stating ive won money in euros. Thanks to all to serve to inform us of the corruption out there.Long live justice.Ronz South Africa

i received two identical letters ,one to a previous residence and one to my current
address, if it was,nt so serious it would be laughable! luckily i saw through it straight away, but sadly there are people out there who will be taken in hook line and sinker,if only there was a way of informing more people about this because not everybody is computer literate and they don,t have any ways of checking the scam out!
merv

i got a smiliar letter from someone called PABLO NACH from spain, telling me i have won 615,810 euros. Ive faved the details back but now they want 695 euros for courier costs by western union money transfers. what shall i do? i really need the money and really need advise

THANKS GUYS…… NEARLY SCAMMED ME TO. GLAD YOU ARE ON THE WEB TO STOP THESE P…….KS FROM SCAMMING DECENT HARD WORKING PEOPLE……

just received a letter via the post sayn i had won over 700000 euro…gr8 i thought where s the bin…

its a scam..the person who signed it at the end evn claimed to be A NUN FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!!
bin the crap and get to work!

This is the kinda letter I got! Thank goodness for this website. Thank you guys!
Watch out!

LOTERIA NACIONAL AWARD 2007
Paseo De La castellana 28, 3A
28809 Madrid Spain.

Reference Numbers: ES/007/05/12/MAD.
Batch Numbers: SP-9059-2007.
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS WON THE LOTERIA.
We are pleased to inform you of the result on Friday 8th June, 2007 of the Loteria Nacional promotions program.
Drew lucky numbers 4-21-23-26-43-44 which consequently won in the 2nd category, You have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of One Million euro Only (€1,000,000.00).

Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your winning information confidential until your claims has been processed and your money remitted to your account.
This is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some participants.
All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from over 50,000.00 companies and 20,000,000.00 individuals email addresses and names from all over the world.
We hope with part of your winning, you will take part in our next year Thirty Million Euros lnternational lottery.

To file for your claim, Please contact Loteria claims Department Madrid.
Contact Person: Sanchez Eduardo.
C/SAN Fernando 41, Planta 4c
28807 Madrid, Spain.
PHONE: +34 652 677 942
FACSIMILE: +34 917 615 191
E-MAIL:agent_sanchezeduardo03@yahoo.es
For due processing and remittance of your prize money to designated account of your choice.
Remember to quote your winning numbers and your direct telephone and fax numbers when responding to these email.

Yours Sincerely,
Wilfred Enrique
Lottery Director.

Nikke,

Not many people take the time to do good things for others. All of us listed on this page (and I am sure there are MANY others who have not commented) owe you gratitude for taking your precious time to keep tabs on what is going on with this scam. You are a great example to us. You are making a difference. God Bless you immeasurably.

im wondering when did i enter this lotto

i mean im only 13

im not a gambler!

Thank you very much for this site! I also recieved a letter very similar to the one described and am very thankful that I found your site.
Shani, Australia.

Firstly, thanks all for sharing your comments & thanks for this site. I have had numerous bogus lottery winning notifications over the years, but hats off to these boys, this one almost had me.
I’d already spent over £300,000 just on the way from the kitchen to the pc to check out La Primitiva……oh well, never mind.

I have received several winnings in same scam if they are only true I am a multi millionaire by now doing nothing just having a simple email address which they acquired from limbo. the 1st one though I knew it was a hoax or scam yet for curiuosity I communicated with them. 1st they say my fund is ready for deposited in a bank in Greece, then I said I change my mind I rather have it in check, then there was an immediate response that my check is ready for delivery asked my name and my address. Until the time that they were asking me to deposit €847 via Western Union for delivery and insurance.
As always I do believed ”if it is too good to be true it is surely a scam”. Just watch for their email add from yahoo, hotmail etc. they couldn’t even have a decent website because they are afraid to be traced. when we are talking money the usual is to scrutinize. Although I symphatized with the feelings of those who are devastated of these scams please I tell you evils are wondering the world for the ruins of souls. So the best thing is to believe in HIM and pray always. Their usual targets are people who are desperate and in needs and it so happens that you are usually the one who were sent scams like these. Please don’t ever put your hard earned money for it. These people are the living devils and who knows maybe he or she is just the person next to you. Amen.

it’s all a scam if you don’t buy a ticket how can you get on the train?
thanks for this site dude’s…

I Have recieved a letter in the post WORTH £0 Sorry 615,810 euros . Just one question how can we return the so called favour ? Thanks Colin

I’ve just Googled ”Dr Riko David” and found this site, as I also recieved a letter the other day to my home address (which is really annoying that these low life scum bags have my personal details) but I read it with some amusement and didn’t believe (though I told my wife we were rich and she believed it for about 5 seconds!). You don’t get something for nothing in this life! Please don’t believe it for a minute, don’t waste your money, time or breath on this rubbish. I read the name Riko David and thought, a Spanish lottery syndicate, the name doesn’t quite go! I imagine a fat Nigerian in Lagos sitting there watching all this money role in from gullible people, they prey on people’s good nature and sincerity!

Thank you all for your comments I got scammed today I am in Ireland and was in Barcelona a few weeks ago so I thought just maybe lol .. and thank god for the Internet and that I have the means to check it out or who knows what may have happened these criminals should be behind bars for life lets hope they get what they deserve grrr!!!!

Hi, my husband received a letter posted in sevilla, Spain telleing him that he had won El Primitivo!
Its a very professional looking letter so I’m quite impressed of the fraud, but like a lot of other people writing comments here, I am a little puzled about how they got hold of his home address!

Yipeee! I’ve won!!

Wait… why is this printed on cheap paper and with a cheat printer as well? Oh wait, there is a watermark in the paper… No… its just a printed watermark.

Nuts! And here I was thinking that I could take a couple of days off…

Hello all, I just received my winning letter (snail mail and all) from Spain yesterday. It got me going for a few moments before I started to notice the small discrepancies.

I’ll hand it to the scammers though, with just a little more work, they might actually succeed. At first glance this seems real enough, and if they would use a really good printer on really good paper, it would probably be a very successful scam.

I am actually impressed. Disgusted and a bit shaken over the address details, but impressed.

I got this email today. At first it seemed interesting, but of course it was a scam. How on earth can people win 5 million euro’s from a lottery they don’t even know…?

EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA
C/ ZAMORA 1A 28924
MADRID ESPAÑA.
DATE: JULY 3RD, 2007.
BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222
REFERENCE:89/00/PPF

AWARD NOTIFICATION.

This is to inform you on the release of the EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA held on the 29TH OF JUNE 2007 . The result was released on the 30TH OF JUNE 2007.This is the most popular draw on the Spanish lottery calendar. It is held every Year and is affectionately the biggest ,Your E-mail address won you 5 million euros with winning ticket details,TICKET NUMBER : 009-778-07ES , BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF .
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
All participants were selected randomly from World Wide Web site through computer draw system and extracted from over 100,000 companies and we utilise state of the art Electronic Data Processing (EDP) to ensure accuracy of all transactions, ticket purchases and win payments.
You are to contact your claims agent Mr John Roi and he shall guide you perfectly in claiming your prize and You shall receive the full amount of the prize money you won.

CONTACT OF YOUR CLAIMS AGENT BELOW:
DR JOHN ROI
allianzseg@aim.com
TEL: +34-630-763-355
ALLIANZ SEGUROS

When contacting Mr John Roi kindly present your information of identity for documentation in your winning file and for recognition of whom to claim award, either your country passport or any other valid identity is required. along with your BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF as stated below .
Remember, all winnings must be processed not later than one month from the day you receive this notification. you are to quote your reference and batch numbers BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF in every of your response to your claim agent. Further more, should there be any change of address, inform your claim agent as soon as possible while a copy of your lucky winning ticket and all other information will be sent to you by your claim agent when your award has been processed and ready for transfer , Your claims agent is DR John Roi. YOU ARE TO CONTACT YOUR SECURITY COMPANY WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
BATCH AND REFERENCE NUMBER:
WINNING EMAIL ADDRESS:
YOUR NAME:
YOUR ADDRESS:
TELEPHONE NUMBER:
FAX NUMBER:
COUNTRY:
A SCAN COPY OF IDENTITY :
Once again from all members of our staff CONGRATULATIONS for being a part of our International promotions program. NOTE:winners below eighteen years ( -18yrs ) are disqualified from this program.
All the testimonials used in our advertising are genuine and we only publish comments and photographs with the express written permission of the winners.

We wish you good fortunes.
Sincerely,
MRS EVA RAMONI .

this spanish el gordo rubbish has even entered malta a letter being posted to my mother with the same contents.

hey people i just got a letter today, i mean how much would u all like to have that money the selfish f****rs ha, we should all go down and demand our money that we supposedly won i mean they are sayin we can go down there and pay wink wink

hi i also got one of these letters today.i,m not surprised i hadn,t won as i had,nt entered any draw.they say they,re the sole representative of the CATALANA OCCIDENTE GROUP who have their own website.i wonder if they know of this.anyway just collected 25 euros from irish lottery.im happy
TONY.

Hiya, I recieved a letter today exactly the same as at the top of this page I couldn’t believe it, I thought wey hey come to momma!! but then of course you start thinking about it and I thought I havn’t even played this lottery I can’t even win a tenner on our lottery so what’s going on. I showed my husband and he said have look on the net and see if you can find anything out and yes I bloody did!
Thankyou for putting my suspicions at rest.
Regards Pam

My husband just received one of these letters with claim form attached. We just couldn’t figure where the scam was as they didn’t ask for money and gave the option of being paid by cheque so that it was not necessary to give bank details. I understand now having read some of the letters that they would subsequently demand money. I hope people are not caught out like this.I intend to send a copy of my letter to a local radio station and ask them to read it out on air and warn people.

I am Polish living in London since 2005 , having wife and four children in Poland so once I have received the letter from Loterias I thought that I will be able to go back to Poland.But fortunately I have checked your website in the internet-Thank YOU ! Their names Dr David Alberto- ” manager” tel 0034695847109- Bilbao Seguros S.L. – Jose Miguel Rodriguez-”Promotions Manager”- Loteria Primitiva-tel. 0034646352204.Tomasz Zietkiewicz.

hi there ppl i just received the same letter on 14 of june, i rang them back don antonio martinez and he was asking to send $2850 australian dollars, i asked them to take the money from the winning prize and he said they couldnt what a scam people, is anyone tried to report them what are they doing couse someone will get burned.

these ppl haave no life i swear ive gotten ths letter so many times

my father recived this letter and i told him to chekc it out on the internet and wee fiound out it was a hugee hugee scam i went and reported it to the police and they are foloowing it up AND I HOPE THEY CATCH this loser!!!

ansd give lall the money back to who it belongs TOO!

I DIDNT GET SUCKED innnnn

Dear Sir or Madam:

I am in receipt of a letter dated 9th June 2007 stating I have won a lot of money.Today my wife received a phone call from DON PEDRO PEREZ asking her to forward £921.00 in return for her ”winning” of 615810.00 Euro Can you tell me if I really won or if it is a scam of some sort?

Please let me know about this matter as soon as you are able.

Thank you for your attention to the above.

Sincerely,
Noel (Northern Ireland)

I received 2 letters, one for 5 000 000euros, same as Joost received, but 7 days before him, and second for 550 000! And ‘claims agents’ wanted to pay them 500euros! First wanted to pay in bank, second on his name, he gave his adress!

Hello,
I received a letter stating I won $815,920 in lottery. It is from spain,Madrid. The agent’s name is Paula Pedro. She had said for me to wired money $1690. So the bank can release my winning check. Is this a scam. Please reply as soon as possible. thanks

This site Is very helpful..I received The same email 2days ago & I’m glad I found this site WWW is really Awesome,U can search everything

I have received a letter today 12/7/07 from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL to say i have won 615.810.00 euros. The letter does look like the real thing with the watermark and the barcode. It says i must reply by 31/7/07 to claim my prize. I am so pleased i looked on the internet first i was looking to see if i could find anything about the company and came across your website. I am pleased there is someone out there who has a site with the information you have about the scams. I would like to thank you for your website which has likely saved me time and money.

Great site. I too nearly taken in with official looking winning notification letter and claim form. However you have to be in it to win it,,,, and I had never had a flutter on this lottery. So looked closer at print quality, then decided to check on the web for details of lottery and security company, and found your site instead.
Thank you so much for the time and effort to main a site to help folks like me.

I CANT BELIVE THIS MY MOTHER JUST TWO THOUSAND SOME ODD DOLLARS TO RECEIVE THE MONEY THEY SAID THEY NEEDED IT TO SEND THE MONEY TO HER. I CANT BELIVE THIS I KNEW I SHOULD HAVETRUSTED MY INSTINCT TO CHECK THIS OUT BEFORE I LET HER SEND THEM MONEY… THAT WE DONT EVEN HAVE.
-THANKS ANYWAY:(

Yes, I got one this morning too. posted in Malaga on 16th July, with real stamp.
Googled it and found out lots of info. the number you have to call for more information is a mobile number (all mobile numbers in Spain begin with 6 (00-34-6…….) so it costs lots. Letterhead has been taken from a website. a big scam… hope no one falls for it and parts with money or their identity. Never send a copy of your passport to anyone!!!!

yeah I revieved a letter as well. I live in Ireland was suspicious about it but thanks for the site!
Ifs its to good to be true it probarbly is!!!!!!!!!

19th-July, iv received the letter today,same with all the others, print by low ink on cheap paper,and even not straight! it shakes me for minutes. just wondering how they get the name and address?they think that no one knows how to use Internet? ???

I live in Mauritius and I have received a similar letter from La Primitiva this morning; so I checked for the authenticity on the internet and came across your website; I must thank you for the initiative. Unfortunately only very few people can access internet in this world; I wonder if there could be other means to help prevent such frauds.

Regards
Baree

I’ve recieved a letter today same as detailed above from ”La Primitiva” contact Person was DON ROMAN PEREZ. Glad I’ve checked this Web, but I had a fair idea it was a scam. Any Idea on how to report it?

Im a turk. I received a e-mail..
EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA
C/ ZAMORA 1A 28924
MADRID ESPAÑA.
DATE: JULY 17, 2007.
BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222
REFERENCE:89/00/PPF

AWARD NOTIFICATION.

This is to inform you on the release of the EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA held on the 12TH OF JULY 2007 . The result was released on the 13TH OF JULY 2007.This is the most popular draw on the Spanish lottery calendar. It is held every Year and is affectionately the biggest ,Your E-mail address won you 5 million euros with winning ticket details,TICKET NUMBER : 009-778-07ES , BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF .
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
All participants were selected randomly from World Wide Web site through computer draw system and extracted from over 100,000 companies and we utilise state of the art Electronic Data Processing (EDP) to ensure accuracy of all transactions, ticket purchases and win payments.
You are to contact your claims agent Mr John Roi and he shall guide you perfectly in claiming your prize and You shall receive the full amount of the prize money you won.

CONTACT OF YOUR CLAIMS AGENT BELOW:
DR JOHN ROI
allianzseg@aim.com

TEL: +34-630-763-355
ALLIANZ SEGUROS

When contacting Mr John Roi kindly present your information of identity for documentation in your winning file and for recognition of whom to claim award, either your country passport or any other valid identity is required. along with your BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF as stated below .
Remember, all winnings must be processed not later than one month from the day you receive this notification. you are to quote your reference and batch numbers BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF in every of your response to your claim agent. Further more, should there be any change of address, inform your claim agent as soon as possible while a copy of your lucky winning ticket and all other information will be sent to you by your claim agent when your award has been processed and ready for transfer , Your claims agent is DR John Roi. YOU ARE TO CONTACT YOUR SECURITY COMPANY WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
BATCH AND REFERENCE NUMBER:
WINNING EMAIL ADDRESS:
YOUR NAME:
YOUR ADDRESS:
TELEPHONE NUMBER:
FAX NUMBER:
COUNTRY:
A SCAN COPY OF IDENTITY :
Once again from all members of our staff CONGRATULATIONS for being a part of our International promotions program. NOTE:winners below eighteen years ( -18yrs ) are disqualified from this program.
All the testimonials used in our advertising are genuine and we only publish comments and photographs with the express written permission of the winners.

We wish you good fortunes.
Sincerely,
MRS EVA RAMONI .

i’ve received a letter from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME today! got very excited of the amount i had won : 733,778.85 £ !!!! it says that i have 2 fill out a form ( which i received with the letter) and attach a copy of my passport. I thought: what is the chance for me winning a lottery i never heard of or paid a cent for? hmm….. IT’S ALL A SCAM AND DONT U REPLY THEM!!!!!

Just received a letter notifying me that I have won €615,810 from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME, without even having to buy a lottery ticket. There is a God.

I have received the same lottery letter giving me hope for 615,800 euros which i earned without even entering the lottery. It is supprising though i won lamp sum of money and still they are demanding some 1,250 euros for the transfer of money. So please be careful.

Hi guys. Just got a letter telling me I won 615,810 euros. All my prayers answered? yeh right. Too good to be true. You dont get anything for nothing in this world. Thanks to your website I have been saved from making a big mistake.

This has also hit the shores of South Africa. My mum received a letter that that concurs with the above people. Furtunately I checked the web to find the background on the company. Thanks guys !!!

damn! can we do something as ravenge ? ;D they send that letter for my. im not not on any list or some other stuff.. they know my name and surname. thats very strange. even insecure.

Hi,

Received the same crap. Different names.
Oh my god, its too good to be true, but keeps one dreaming…

I googled and found this site:
Hopefully this site helps to prevent a lot of people from spending money for noting.

EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA
C/ ZAMORA 1A 28924
MADRID ESPAÑA.
DATE: JULY 25, 2007.
BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222
REFERENCE:89/00/PPF

AWARD NOTIFICATION.

This is to inform you on the release of the EL-GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA held on the 12TH OF JULY 2007 . The result was released on the 13TH OF JULY 2007.This is the most popular draw on the Spanish lottery calendar. It is held every Year and is affectionately the biggest ,Your E-mail address won you 5 million euros with winning ticket details,TICKET NUMBER : 009-778-07ES , BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF .
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
All participants were selected randomly from World Wide Web site through computer draw system and extracted from over 100,000 companies and we utilise state of the art Electronic Data Processing (EDP) to ensure accuracy of all transactions, ticket purchases and win payments.
You are to contact your claims agent Mr John Roi and he shall guide you perfectly in claiming your prize and You shall receive the full amount of the prize money you won.

CONTACT OF YOUR CLAIMS AGENT BELOW:
DR JOHN ROI
allianzseg2007@aim.com

TEL: +34-630-763-355
ALLIANZ SEGUROS

When contacting Mr John Roi kindly present your information of identity for documentation in your winning file and for recognition of whom to claim award, either your country passport or any other valid identity is required. along with your BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF as stated below .
Remember, all winnings must be processed not later than one month from the day you receive this notification. you are to quote your reference and batch numbers BATCH: EGGS-011-060-222 and REFERENCE:89/00/PPF in every of your response to your claim agent. Further more, should there be any change of address, inform your claim agent as soon as possible while a copy of your lucky winning ticket and all other information will be sent to you by your claim agent when your award has been processed and ready for transfer , Your claims agent is DR John Roi. YOU ARE TO CONTACT YOUR SECURITY COMPANY WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
BATCH AND REFERENCE NUMBER:
WINNING EMAIL ADDRESS:
YOUR NAME:
YOUR ADDRESS:
TELEPHONE NUMBER:
FAX NUMBER:
COUNTRY:
A SCAN COPY OF IDENTITY :
Once again from all members of our staff CONGRATULATIONS for being a part of our International promotions program. NOTE:winners below eighteen years ( -18yrs ) are disqualified from this program.
All the testimonials used in our advertising are genuine and we only publish comments and photographs with the express written permission of the winners.

We wish you good fortunes.
Sincerely,
MRS EVA RAMONI .

I am from Norway.I have received a letter today 27.07.07 from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL to say i have won 615.810.00 euros. The letter does look like the real thing with the watermark and the barcode.I must reply by 03.08.07 to claim my prize.The contakt person is DON MARTIN CARO-manager BILBAO SEGUROS S.L. On Tel 0034 911 011 361 and Fax 0034 911 011 362……… I am looked on the internet and came your website.THANKS FOR THE WEBSITE!!!!!!Frends be careful…..
P.S.Copy of the letter i can scan & e-mail it to you.

Well I’m another sucker…almost!!! Same letter as everyone else, a lovely win of 615,810. I was daft enough to phone although I always felt in the back of my mind…nah! Can’t be true, but you got to check it out. Low and behold Don Martin Sanchez is calling me back on Monday to verify things and arrange the transfer of the money..i wonder how much he’s going to charge me for the transfer fee!! Nice while it lasted, I was buying the family home I need, a mini cooper and a motor bike for him in doors! Beware… and thanks for the input!

I also received a letter from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL saying that I have won over £733,778.85! However, upon checking their name, came upon this site – which only proves it is a scam!!!! Thought it was too good to be true. So glad to find this website. Thank you.

I am writting from Turkiye. I’m so glad because of finding this web-site. On july 28, i have received a similar stupid mail like others. At first i have surprised, because i have never seen before such a good prepeared scam mail like this. I did not believe it but in my mind there was a question ”can it be true? ”… :0) …. A few minutes ago i read some other victims like me above. And i realized that this is a very bad joke. All this amount of people can not win the same or similar lotteries. The letter says that ”you won 5 million euro”… Not 5000, not 50.000, not 500.000… it is 5.000.000 euro… it is very absurd and stupid… How can it be real? No, no they are bad guys who prepeared these mails….. They must be punished as soon as possible. I want to thank this site and all other writers above, because of informing us….. I love you my friends and i send all you my best regards from Turkey.

Just got one as well! A very clever scam. Although you know deep down that it’s fake, a little bit of you wants to believe it. A great website and easy to find.
Thanks, Nikke.
PS – As someone else commented, identify theft is a real possibility, especially if you give them your bank details.

Hi All

Thanks for the tip off. My wife rang me with the information but we had our doubts.
I googled the name of the lotto and found this site.
Nice money but we have our health thank god.

Regards
Vince

I also have received (letters) on August 03/2007 at my addresses informing me that I have won 615.810.00 Euros. from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION PROGRAM .They asked me to claim my price before 30th of August.
Do you think that ihave to rush???
Kindly accept my many thanks for your website which inform us about these
crooks.

I also have received (letters) on August 03/2007 at my addresses informing me that I have won 615.810.00 Euros. from LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION PROGRAM .They asked me to claim my price before 30th of August.
Do you think that ihave to rush???
Kindly accept my many thanks for your website

hola me llamo luis , mi mama tambien resibio una carta con una noticia demasiado buena buena para ser verdad, era supuesta mente de LA PRIMITIVA LOTERIA de espana hahaha
que abia ganado una muy buena cantidad de EUROS que contactara a un supuesto agente, que les diera mi # de cuenta I otra imformacion para procesar mi pago. estos cabrones si que tienen imaginasion pero tomare cartas en el asunto I vere a donde tengo que acudir con esta carta para denunciar a esa vola de estafadores hijos de su mamasita, tal vez el FBI voy a imformarme pero espero que todos ustedes tambien tomen cartas en esto y tratar de llevar estas personas a donde se meresen la CARCEL gracias.

hi!i also recieved the same letter saying that i just won 615,810.00 euros.That i had to claim my prize before the 24th of august 2007!i’ve sent them my ID by fax.with all informations on my bank account.do i have to fear something?anyway thanks!i was about tomake the money transfer on internet!the contact name is David Carlos,phone number:0034654182577;fax:0034911010799!the bank worker Maria Perez!i would like to hear about someone who sent the money,did they get a reply?anyway that’s real disgusting!i almost quit my job!
Please be on the alert!

Nikke,
Excellent web-site, I received an almost identical letter in the mail today to inform me that I’d won 615,810 Euros.
Do you have information about where this originates from i.e. Nigerian 419 etc.
I’m a security consultant working internationaly and would just like more info on this so I can post it on my company newsletter and alert my clients to this.
Thank you,
Dermot Cosgrove
Ireland

these a**holes seem to have gotten our details from holiday booking

what a fab web-site, i received the same letter today informing me that I had won also 615,810 Euros. Dermot for your info this originates from malaga in spain the full address is loterias y apuestas del estado, apartado de correos 120,29001 malaga spain. regards vasco

Nikke
Thank for this website. I was another beneficiary of this fake lotteria Primitiva. I’d won 800,809 euros.

Jorge
Canada

I also got a letter today saying I had been approved for a lump sum payouy of € 815,510,00 in cash. I felt that something was funny about the letter and luckely I found this site. Winning money would be fantastic but I prefere to win less money and in a honest way.

One must always be carefull now a days!

Suzanne from Italy

i too recieved a similar letter stating i won 475600 euros. my claims agent is dr. raul fernandez , his id being raul.zurich@madrid.com. tel nos..34-658-654-914.
the programme director is snr antonio rodriguez.
my family was so happy to recieve this..thought our bad times are gone.
but it is so sad to know this is a scam.
THANKS FOR THIS WEBSITE.

my dad just won the lottery i sent off the fax for him but we did make sure not to send any bank details we’re a bit worried now though about identity theft

Thank you for your website. I received one of these scam letters today from LA PRIMITIVA and it sounded sooo credible, scary!! Now I know the difference between truth and scam! Thank you.

hi everybody
i have just received an e-mail with the same wording but with 5,000,000 euro prize and i have contacted panish embassy in egypt as threr is no spanish embassy in my country, sudan.also they asked me to pay euor6,00 as trnsfer fees and i told them that i need somthing official from my bank in uk.
the guy who is responding is dr john roi.
thank you so much for informations shown in your website but till now i am trying to convice myself that it just scam!! but still i am very worried that they got my bank account details .any one to advice ,pls
rgds and all the best
hashim.nimir@gmail.com

Hello. I was in doubts from the first minute,. i also found on internet that so called my foregine service agent doesn’t exsist. But what bothers me is how do they get our names and addresses.
Anyway, thank you all for a warning and i hope that police or anyone gets those prankers.
Byebye

I couldn’t understand some parts of this article rdo de la Primitiva Lottery International Promotions Programmes, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

DEAR ALL,
ANY TO TRACE THOSE CRIMINALS AS THE GIVE PHONE AND FAX NO.
I HAVE CONTACTED AGAIN SPANISH EMBASSY TO TRACE THEM BUT TILL NOW NO RESPONSE.
PLS ADVICE
HASHIM

For those of you that receive letters sent from Spain. Please send a copy of the letter and envelope to the Spanish police in Malaga:

Comandancia de la Guardia Civil
Av Arroyo de los Angeles 44
CP 29009
Malaga
( COS )

or Fax: 0034952071555 Atencion COS , with a contact number.

They already catch two Nigerian citizens related to this case in June 2004.

Thanks for your help

dear friends,
i got the same letter from primitivo yesterday, i never played lotto in my life- we were all very happy in the first minitues-after ten minutes i started checking ”this gods gift” seriously and went to my lawier and my banker- they startet loughing and told me, to put this papers in the waste. what i did quickly. i was a millionary in mind for 10 minitues;—-)

thx for tis platform!
nice greets from Vienna

I just recive the same letter, and i never bought any lottery ticket, and for sure there next step, u need to pay us to claim you money which is am not going to do, and the funny thing I won one by e-mail and the second one they sent it by mail with diffrent batch and ref #…..

I will try to get as much detail as i can of those people…..hope no one fall for them…

I am really happy to see this information in the internet. Just now i received this kind of letter through mail. I verified in this interent and found that it is scam. I am throughing this letter in dust bin.
thanks for your help on contributing this internet/

Dear all
i got this letter 2day, came online 2 check it out, jus wana say tnx 4 all the info, this time they used this company SEGUROS BILBAO.

heres the link 2 the letter i got, it matchs the 1 they sent me!!! lol
http://www.idealspain.com/LotteryScamLetters/scam8.pdf

this is fake………really i thiink so……..i just recieved the same letter……no reply …………bakwwass………..i hate themmm…….

Received a letter a couple of days ago saying that I had won 985,950 euro on the Spanish lottery, checked the website and there was no draw on the date indicated and the numbers were not referenced.
Saw your web-site and checked this out, what a scam, just as I thought it would be. Anyone who receives a letter or e-mail like this should throw it straight in the bin where it belongs.

Dear Nikkes, I receved a letter mansaning that i won 615,810 EUROS on the lottery held 30th June 2007 LA PRIMITIVA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS PROGRAMME and asking me to send all the details and bank account no wich i send to person call CRUZ MARTINS FORING OPERATION MANAGER BILBAO SEGUROS S.L TELEP NO 0034692573132 FAX NO 0034 911814187. they infiromed me to send £950 as bank chargers through WESTEN UNION MONEY TRANCER the name given for the trancer NAME CHARLEYS BROWN and they conform they received money and posted forged bank of BANCO SANTANDER maney trancer note and told me money will be my account 7 days. but still its not. what can i do how can i get back my money back please help me

So I just got off of the phone with my ”claiming agent/foreign operations manager”, Don Pedro Antonio of the all-too-generous La Primativa Lottery International. Current east coast time being 9:14pm. I recieved my letter early this morning and, to be quite honest, I was sanguine. You see I’ve recieved emails from these bullshit artists before, but never have I gone to the mailbox to find an envelope of certified mail from Madrid, Spain to my address stating I’ve won 615,810 euros.

I waited until tonight to make my long-distance phone call(being sure to include *67 as the prefix) for two reasons:

1) Checking timeanddate.com/worldclock/ I found that Madrid is 6 hours ahead of New York.

2) If some dumb douche-nozzle answers the phone at 3 in the morning, claiming to still be in the office catching up on other lucky lottery beneficiaries, all doubts would be confirmed.

…this is exactly what happened.

A freshly awakened elder man clears his throat and mutters the words, ”Estrella Seguros”. I couldn’t believe it. He ACTUALLY ANSWERED! My mind immediately began analyzing all possibilities of fraud. ”Did they not have an answering service…was this even a land line…did I really just call a fucking cell phone?”. I replied with a simple and inquisitive, ”Hello?”, implying that the ”professional” on the other side of the planet should take control of the conversation and direct my call accordingly. He replies, ”Hello?”. That was enough for me. Confirmation. However, I couldn’t end the call just yet. I had to see how far Don Pedro was going to take this. Already chuckling I asked him what time it was there. He pauses a moment and tells me it’s ten o’clock. ”In the morning?”, I ask…knowing damn well that it was 3 hours after midnight in all of Spain. ”No, in the night.”, he says. ”Oh wow, you guys are open late over there…what are your business hours?”. Can you guess what the poor bastard says? ”8 hours.”. Oookay. ”8 hours huh? So when do those 8 hours fall in your day? 2 to 10? 3 to 11?”. ”I’m sorry?”, the man replies. ”Nevermind”, I say. ”I believe I’ve won the lottery.”

He then asks me for my name(first and last), and my reference number. I oblige him with such information and ask him if anyone else was still at the office. He says, ”No…give me a moment to search the data base.”. I am not even kidding you when I write that what I heard was nothing more than a stumbling-about and rummaging through boxes of papers. ”Found it. You have won 615,810 euros. How do you want it?”.

Back to analyzing. My virgo mind can understand why a security company would not just mail a check for said amount to some random address without thorough confirmation. In the United States, when a citizen claims their lottery winnings(from a lottery they actually participated in), proofs of identity beyond bank account numbers and a photo copy of I.D. are required…for many reasons, mainly tax purposes. I understand this is another country we are dealing with here, but seriously…how desperate are we?

”How do you want it, transfer or check?”. ”You guys can just send me a check for 615,810 euros?”, I ask. ”Yes. There is a thousand dollar handlers fee for sending check.”, he says. Icing on the cake. ”Really, so is it free if I have the money transferred into my bank account?”. Senior Don Pedro then mumbles to me in his half-lucid state about the fees accrued in making sure I’m who I say I am. ”That will come to 580 euros.”, he says…without missing a beat. ”Can you take it out of the winnings.”, I ask. ”NO! We cannot take anything out of those monies.”, he declares. ”Okay. Is there anyone else I can speak to at your company…a supervisor perhaps?”. Don Pedro replies, ”There is no one else who can talk to you…I am the only one who can give you your monies. I am here to take care of you and there is no one else.”.

In closing…BINGO! There IS no one else. There is no promotion company. There is no money. These cheese-dick mother fuckers are scamming AT LEAST 1 out of every 200 people they come in contact with. It’s incredibly bold and undeniably arrogant of these cowards to assume they can take advantage of and gain profit from ANY of the eager who feel that half-a-million dollars will solve all of their problems.

If the hundreds of comments posted above haven’t assured you that all of it is a scam…please visit http://www.joewein.de/sw/419scam.htm

Yours truly,
Jonnas

These mongrels are now targeting elderly people my mother got one yesterday can we put a stop to these bastards.

Also thankyou for all your help atleast there is a site worth having on here.
Cheers Dale

I won $800K in the El Gordo La Lottery Primitiva S.A.. I am very busy but still spent a couple of hours figuring this stuff out and I called my fund releasing agent Luis Simon, Foreign Services Manager of Bilboa Security Company S.A. at 0034 648 772 049. He called me back with strict instructions not to give my winning reference number and batch number to anyone else. Then I searched the web and found this website thank God. At least I won’t spend any more time on this garbage.

just received a letter and claims form in post today . My contact is Mario Sanchez .

As others have stated if we had been lucky enough to win some money then they would have sent a cheque and wouldnt need bank details or other id !!!

I felt like faxing the claim form with a covering letter saying send my cheque but you aint getting my other id !! lol

I want to report another scam, August 2007.
Usual lottery scam by mail, from Valencia Spain.
Data:
Loteria Primitiva
Agent: GRUPO BILBAO SECURITY COMPANY S.L.
Bank: THE WORLD BANK FUND CONFIRMATION UNIT
Phones listed for ‘foreign service manager’ Louis Gomez:
+34 663 710 692
Fax: +34 912 919 688

Is there any possibility to trace these guys by the fax number? The fax should be a valid number as they are expecting contact details.

Tks for your webpage.

Euromilliones Lottery Primitiva
Plaza juan carlos c-145
28006 madrid spain I can not find the address in autoroute
letter posted at malaga

they took my address from the local phone book the no where else its written like this

Dr LUIS WILLIAM
tel: 0034 638 861 390 is working answers in african english

bye

They are still at it. This time La Primitiva Lottery International Promotions Programme from an address Loterias y Apuestos del Estado, Apartado de Correos 129, 28085, Madrid, Spain.
My contact is a Dr Cruz Martins of Bilbao Seguros SL.

So they must be successful at this to keep it going. Hope someone can stop them. Prizes going down though I only ‘won’ €615,810…but they did send me two letters which is not so efficient!

From Ireland.

Thank you very much for this website. I apprecaite that these scams are obvious but it is reassuring that a website likes yours is out there informing people. I received my letter today. The details are:

La Primitiva Lottery International promotions programme
loterias y Apuestaas del Estado
Apartado de Correso 129
28085,
Madrid
Spain.
TEL 0034685613560
FAX 0034911817684
TEL 0034645012362

Regards

Peter.

I have also received a letter informing me that I have won 615810 euros. My first thought was ”scam” and I am very pleased to have found this website confirming all that I believed.
My only regret is that there seems very little people can do to hit back at these crooks. I shall return a piece of paper with a very blunt message to the address I have in Spain. I will not put a stamp on it in the hope that the postal service there will at least charge them a few euros for the pleasure of receiving it. Needless to say I shall not include my name or address.

I have just received same letter from La Primitiva Lottery International Promotions. Contact this time is Estrella Seguridad S.A and contact is Dr Pedro Perez! Having read all previous comments am not going to waste my time ringing. Thanks for all previous advice.

hi, i just recieved one of the letters today from La Primitiva, so glad i looked on the internet and found this web site, my friend and I couldn’t believe it. What a scam. Thanks!!!

The award letters are bits of poorly scanned and captured letter headings. The security company logo on top of the letter even has an enter button left over from the screen capture from the real company’s website!!

From Northern Ireland -

I just got one of these letters today myself. I was a bit concerned at first because I had just returned from holiday in the Canary Islands the day before where I bought a Euro Millions lottery just before I came home! The post mark is Malaga and I see that someone has kindly provided the address of the Police Headquarters in Malaga – thanks for all your info.

thx all for info. have received letters from international lotto promotions. contact this time is grupo bilbao security company s.a. and contact is Dr Carlos Haya.
Total amount i had won is 785,790.00 euros.

Hi, new recipient here, as soon as I saw this today I reached a new high. But then it said on the envelope Middlesex, London, which is actually the wrong town.

Always look for detail cos even in the registration form they ask for waaay too much detail no one who is about to pay you would would ever ask you for that much info.

Good job i checked before jacking the job and popping the bubbly.Hope no one gets taken in as my dear old mum would say you don’t get anything for nothing.

i was very surprised to get today this kind of letter informing me that i won more than 900 000£. it come from LOTERIA PRIMITIVA.

well i recieved tha same kind of letter, nd according to it i have won more than 860000 euros, the lottery i never had purchased in my life.
thanx to this web site that i came to know the reality and facts behind that scam.